In this episode of Data Driven, we're diving into the rapidly evolving world of agentic AI—where autonomous AI agents collaborate, communicate, and occasionally collide. Our guest, Vlad Luzin, co-founder and CTO of Band, joins us to explore the technical challenges and real-world implications of building collaboration layers for agents that act like distributed, non-deterministic microservices.

We’ll unpack the myths and realities surrounding orchestration, governance, and security, and discuss how enterprises can operationalize these agent ecosystems safely. Tune in as we share lessons learned, amusing engineering mishaps, and get a glimpse of what the future holds as agents become everyday colleagues in the digital enterprise.

• Vlad's LinkedIn Profile -https://www.linkedin.com/in/luzin/
• Watch this episode on YouTube -https://youtu.be/MZztFagEX_E
• Band Website -https://www.band.ai/
• Band Docs -https://docs.band.ai/

00:00 Explaining orchestration in tech

03:42 Understanding models and harnesses

09:38 Misconceptions about A2A communication

10:41 Understanding multi-agent systems

16:18 Observability for distributed systems

18:54 Agent communication and collaboration

24:28 Unauthorized agent interactions

25:49 Remote agent collaboration ideas

28:54 How foundational AI models communicate

33:20 Agent communication protocols overview

35:39 Discussing tech standards and AI velocity

40:53 Learning to Work with AI Agents

42:41 Using Band AI tools

Imagine waking up to find a thousand AI agents silently making decisions across your company—and no one knows exactly what they're accessing.

In this episode of Data Driven, hosts Frank La Vigne and Andy Leonard sit down with Ron Longo, CEO of Trustlogix, to explore the evolving landscape of AI governance, security, and data engineering. As enterprises race to integrate AI at unprecedented speed, the noise and confusion have never been greater. Ron Longo unveils the concept of the AI control plane with a "kill switch," discusses the real-world challenges of securing both human and non-human agents, and explains why classic best practices—like least privilege and prompt engineering—are more important than ever in an era where machines operate at breakneck pace.

Join us as we dive into how Trustlogix keeps enterprise data safe, why innovation must balance with protection, and what it takes to build systems resilient enough for the next wave of AI-driven change. Whether you’re a data engineer, business leader, or just AI-curious, this episode brings practical insights and lively stories from the front lines of AI governance.

• Ron's LinkedIn profile -https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronlongo/
• TrustLogix Web site -https://www.trustlogix.ai/
• TheDingo -https://www.thedingo.ai/

00:00 Managing data security threats

05:08 Developing the kill switch concept

07:20 Enforcing least privilege access

12:43 AI communication challenges and best practices

15:40 Revoking agents and data access

19:25 AI kill switch for security

22:00 Managing data access with control plane

25:59 Applying AI to complex environments

29:45 Discussing data engineering basics

32:16 Language experts' unique advantage

33:49 Creating an app with Claude AI

37:09 Balancing AI and security in enterprises

43:43 AI's impact on job roles

44:51 Learning from Air Force RFP

As we launch season 10, your favorite semi-sentient British AI co-host returns to the microphone alongside Frank La Vigne for a compelling exploration of what it truly means to be a data-driven organization.

In this episode, Frank sits down with Sebastian Wernicke, author of "Data Inspired" and renowned expert in data and AI strategy, to discuss why turning data into action remains a formidable challenge for so many organizations.

Together, they dive into the enduring gap between data insights and meaningful change, the crucial role of leaders in fostering cultures of evidence and inquiry, and why technology alone won’t move the needle without the buy-in—and sometimes the irrationality—of humans.

From the evolution of data culture and the pitfalls of management by numbers, to the psychological barriers that lead to "data frustration," this episode offers a candid, nuanced look at the real obstacles standing in the way of better decisions.

Sebastian Wernicke on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wernicke/

Watch this episode on YouTube - https://youtu.be/2qP4p0YKxI8

Data Inspired (affiliate link) - https://amzn.to/4xkCuBV