Episodes

  • 198. Yannick Imbert on J.R.R. Tolkien
    Dec 29 2025
    In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Yannick Imbert to discuss his book From Imagination to Faerie: Tolkien’s Thomist Fantasy. Who was J.R.R. Tolkien, and why does he matter today? What was Tolkien’s Roman Catholicism and his own view of theology, language, and myth? What is “faerie”? What is “subcreation”? Writing, “Tolkien’s theory of fantasy is essentially a theological one”, Yannick takes us through how Tolkien’s Thomism impacts his view of the imagination, and how he sees good stories (even among the unbelievers) pointing toward their ultimate fulfillment in Jesus Christ. Talking through issues of antithesis and common grace, sin and beauty, the need to engage both reason and imagination, as well as the divide between Rome and Protestantism – what can we both learn and critique of Tolkien’s work? A conservative in the realm of poetry and the arts, we both begin and end on the legacy of Tolkien today, and how he will likely be remembered indefinitely into the future.Book: From Imagination to Faerie: Tolkien’s Thomist FantasySome other resources by Dr. Imbert:Reclaiming the “Dark Ages”: How the Gospel Light Shone from 500-1500 - Also hear our previous interview hereOther resources:“Beowulf: The Monster and The Critics” by J.R.R. TolkienEngaging Thomas Aquinas; A Christian’s Pocket Guide to Mary: Mother of God? by Leonardo De Chirico- Also hear our previous interview hereBiblical Critical Theory by Christopher WatkinOriginal Sin by Henri BlocherThe Defense of the Faith; Common Grace and the Gospel by Cornelius Van TilThe Trinitarian Theology of Cornelius Van Til by Lane TiptonPaul’s Two-Age Construction and Apologetics; A Christian Approach to Interdisciplinary Studies; “The Christian Academy: Antithesis, Common Grace and Plato’s View of the Soul” by William DennisonSaint Thomas Aquinas; The Everlasting Man by G. K. ChestertonThe Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas by Etienne GilsonChristianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen (also here)Justified in Christ: The Doctrines of Peter Martyr Vermigli and John Henry Newman and Their Ecumenical Implications by Christopher Castaldo“The Patristic Roots of the Reformed Faith” (Pastor Jason Wallace; Ancient Paths TV)
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    2 hrs and 25 mins
  • 197. Bernard Aubert on J. Gresham Machen's The Virgin Birth of Christ
    Dec 22 2025

    In this episode, we welcome Dr. Bernard Aubert to discuss his article “J. Gresham Machen’s The Virgin Birth of Christ: Then and Now”. What is the context of Machen’s The Virgin Birth of Christ and why was the book so important? Taking us through the overlapping contexts of the Fundamentalism-Modernist Controversy, the Presbyterian Controversy, and a context in the academy where the Hellenization Thesis and the “History of Religion School” was prominent - Dr. Aubert helps us understand this book, in context. Moreover, he takes us through how Machen’s confessional Presbyterian background and classical education, in which historical context and authorial intent are emphasized, aided Machen’s work in New Testament studies. Bringing it all together, Dr. Aubert shows why the topic was key when it came to standards for ministers, in his Presbyterian context – and was a key defense of the historical reliability of the New Testament, the integrity of the Gospels’ presentation of Jesus’ birth, and indeed - the Incarnation, itself. Further aiding our understanding of Machen’s book, we also ask about how the book was received, in its time, as well as how the book’s arguments stood up over time.


    Article: “J. Gresham Machen’s The Virgin Birth of Christ: Then and Now”

    The Virgin Birth of Christ by J. Gresham Machen


    Other resources by Dr. Aubert:

    - “Calvin and the Interpretation of Scripture”, Verbum Christi

    - The Sheperd-Flock Motif in the Miletus Discourse (Acts 20:17-38) Against its Historical Background

    - Reformed Standards of Unity: The Historic Confessions of Faith Confessed by the Presbyterian Churches


    Also: check out a database Dr. Aubert did work on that is a comprehensive list of prooftexts in key Reformed confessions: standards.wts.edu

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • 196. Mark 8.22-26: Prisoners in the Dungeon
    Dec 18 2025

    In this episode, Skyler flies solo with some thoughts on the contrast between The Gospel of Mark and Plato's Allegory of the Cave - specifically in regard to what the problem is, who and what the solution is, and what it means to "see". Instead of one's own acquisition of knowledge being a basis of the soul's ascent out of the world, perhaps the Gospel is Truth coming to us and healing us (embodied) in the world, trusting his eyes to see, with hope and patience for a Kingdom to be received by the very Grace who saved us.

    One wise and informed warning against some of the symbolic interpretation of the passage is found in the brilliant work of Dr. Lydia McGrew here, here, here and here.

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    1 hr and 11 mins
  • 195. William Dennison on Antithesis, Common Grace, and Plato's View of the Soul
    Dec 15 2025

    In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Bill Dennison to discuss his article “The Christian Academy: Antithesis, Common Grace, and Plato’s View of the Soul”. Starting with the “tension between common grace and human depravity”, how do we understand the Antithesis in relation to subject-matter that seems like neutral ground for believer and unbeliever alike? Given the seriousness of sin upon our hearts and minds, how do we approach unbelieving systems in an informed manner that doesn’t compromise what Scripture has revealed? Doesn’t Plato and the Bible both teach the immortality of the soul, and thus that particular insight serve as a bridge of agreement? Taking Plato as a test case, Dr. Dennison takes us through the depth and structure of Plato’s system (especially as found in the Phaedo) and takes us into the context of the particular view of the soul and its immortality. Having properly understood Plato (as Plato), we can then analyze the level of agreement that is truly there between the Bible and Plato. Once both Plato and the Bible are adequately understood, therein lies a striking example of the danger of unwarranted synthesis, and the syncretism that has always plagued the Israel of God. Listen in as Dr. D gives us both the context of this paper, as well as the current significance of understanding this kind of analysis. Instead of nostalgia driving people simply back to earlier forms of errors, perhaps its time to systematically understand the destructive potential of an emphasis on common grace when unaccompanied by a robust Biblical view of the Fall and of man in his sinful state, including Christians. As Dr. D writes: “antithesis must precede common grace”.


    Article: “The Christian Academy: Antithesis, Common Grace, and Plato’s View of the Soul”


    Book: In Defense of the Eschaton: Essays in Reformed Apologetics

    Also check out as basically a “part two” of the article discussed: “Dutch Neo-Calvinism and the Roots for Transformation: An Introductory Essay”


    Hear our past interviews with Dr. Dennison:

    - Karl Marx

    - Cornelius Van Til on the Problem of Evil

    -Also check out Dr. D’s sermon series on Revelation


    Other resources:

    Plato’s Phaedo

    Plato by R.M. Hare


    The Westminster Confession of Faith (esp. chapters 6, 9, 32)

    The Defense of the Faith; Common Grace and the Gospel by Cornelius Van Til

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    2 hrs and 14 mins
  • 194. Lauren Montenegro on The Virgin Mary
    Dec 11 2025

    In this episode, we welcome missionary and a church planter Lauren Montenegro to discuss her chapter in the recent book The Nicene Creed titled: “The Virgin Mary”. What is Mariology, and what are the four Marian dogmas? What is the basis and defining logic of Mariology, and does Protestant have one? What is the Rosary, and do Roman Catholics worship and pray to Mary? Listen in as Lauren takes us into this and more – as she takes us into the global world of Marian apparitions, visions and images. There are around 2,400 claims of Marian apparitions in the world, even though few than 20 are officially recognized by the Vatican; moreover, in 184 of these claims, “Mary allegedly requested that a chapel be built” in order to attain blessings from her. How should Protestants understand the place of these personal revelations of Mary, the ongoing revelation of Mariology – and the place of sincerity when it comes to evaluating faithful Christianity? Lauren takes us through this and more as we try to understand and evaluate something at the heart of global Roman Catholicism.


    Book: The Nicene Creed: The Nature of Christian Unity and the Meaning of Gospel Words edited by Mark Gilbert and Leonardo De Chirico


    Some other articles by Lauren Montenegro:

    • "A Significant Change in the Roman Catholic World of Apparitions"
    • "Mary: An Evangelical Review of Netflix's Somewhat-Catholic Film"


    Other resources:

    See chapter 8 of Lumen Gentium (Vatican II)

    The Cult of the Saints by Peter Brown

    Mary in Early Christian Faith and Devotion by Stephen Shoemaker


    A Christian’s Pocket Guide to Mary: Mother of God?; Same Words, Different Worlds: Do Roman Catholics and Evangelicals Believe the Same Gospel?; Engaging Thomas Aquinas: An Evangelical Approach by Leonardo De Chirico

    Who Is My Mother? by Eric Svendsen

    The Courage to Be Protestant by David Wells

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    2 hrs and 16 mins
  • 193. Leonardo De Chirico on Mary: Mother of God?
    Dec 8 2025
    In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Leonardo De Chirico to discuss his book A Christian’s Pocket Guide to Mary: Mother of God?. Is Mariology simply an accretion, and what is at stake for those who hold Scripture is the Word of God, the Gospel is essential – and that history matters? Who was Mary, the Mary of history and of Scripture? What does it mean for her to be called by the angel Gabriel “favored” by God twice in Luke 1? Is there any indication of her immaculate conception, perpetual virginity, or bodily assumption in Scripture – or sources that should otherwise be treated as historical? What of Paul’s near-silence, and the account in Mark 3 of Jesus’ question to the crowd, in the face of the intervention of “his mother and brothers”, defining his family (including “mother”) as something other than biological? Join us as Dr. De Chirico takes through what the Scriptures, and helps us in understanding the development that occurred between the actual Mary of Scripture and history into the imaginative and mythical “Mary” of Rome, Eastern Orthodoxy, as well as a few Protestants claiming a mystical experience (i.e. a burning of their bosom) with their newfound heavenly mother. Listen in as Dr. De Chirico takes us on a tour from Mary to Mariology, and how the developed and developing “Mary of the church” has consistently obfuscated and obscured both the work and person of God, the Son – as well as nearly replacing the work and person of God, the Spirit.Book: A Christian’s Pocket Guide to Mary: Mother of God?Reformanda InitiativeVatican FilesSome other resources by Dr. De Chirico:- “No Longer Accretions. The Problem of Roman Catholicism in Dialogue with Gavin Ortlund”- Engaging Thomas Aquinas: An Evangelical Approach (also here)- A Christian’s Pocket Guide to the Papacy- Same Words, Different Worlds: Do Roman Catholics and Evangelicals Believe the Same Gospel? - Evangelical Theological Perspectives on post-Vatican II Roman CatholicismAlso check out the recent book edited by Dr. De Chirico, including a chapter contributed by him: The Nicene Creed: The Nature of Christian Unity and the Meaning of Gospel WordsOther resources:What Happened at Vatican II by John W. O'MalleySee chapter 8 of Lumen Gentium (Vatican II)The Virgin Birth of Christ by J. Gresham Machen (also here)Who Is My Mother?:The Role and Status of the Mother of Jesus in The New Testament and Roman Catholicism by Eric D. SvendsenBiblical Theology by Geerhardus Vos (also here)Karl Rahner by Camden Bucey1 Kings (EEC) by John Oswalt (also here)Patrick of Ireland: His Life and Impact by Michael Haykin (also here)From Prisoner to Prince: The Joseph Story in Biblical Theology by Samuel Emadi"A True and Greater Boaz: Typology and Jesus in the Book of Ruth" by Mitchell ChaseJosephus and Jesus by T.C. SchmidtAudio clips from Scourby YouBible Channel:Book of LukeBook of MarkBook of 1 TimothyBook of 2 TimothyAlso check out the LDS/Mormon Gospel Topics Essay: "Mother in Heaven"; as well as the LDS hymn "O My Father" (also here). For a real-life historical example of the connection being made, see here.
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    1 hr and 54 mins
  • 192. Bill McKeever on the Legacy of Elder Bruce R. McConkie
    Dec 3 2025
    NOTE: There is a lengthy set of clips at the outset that highlight Bruce R. McConkie's teachings that will be covered in this episode. While we encourage you to listen to them in their entirety, the actual interview starts around 00:11:54.In this episode, we welcome back Bill McKeever of the Mormonism Research Ministry to discuss LDS Apostle Elder Bruce R. McConkie and his legacy. Who was Elder Bruce R. McConkie, and why does matter? What are some highlights of his work – and why has his controversial book Mormon Doctrine had such a profound impact on theological understanding both for those within the LDS community, and those on the outside of the community? In this interview, we ask Bill about his view of the rise and fall of Bruce R. McConkie and what insight that may provide into the nature of LDS theology, authority-claims, and theological commitments. When Christians might disagree so thoroughly with McConkie’s conclusions, why do they so often appreciate his clarity on topics such as the Nature of God(s), the exclusive claims of Joseph Smith’s restoration of priesthood and Church, and his boldly declaring the “heresies” that define “apostate Christendom”? While LDS often maintain their rhetorical commitment to restored authority via living prophets and apostles, why is there such a casual and dismissive attitude toward one of the great doctrinal authorities in Mormon history? In other words, when even those skeptical toward the doctrinal status of many of McConkie’s teachings acknowledge him as one of the most respected Scripture-scholars and the “most doctrinaire leader of his era”, why has his reputation suffered so thoroughly by even many within the LDS community? Moreover, should Christian-outsiders continue to focus on McConkie’s published works?Article: “Bruce R. McConkie: Respected General Authority, or Theological Hack?”Check out: Mormonism Research MinistryAlso check out:“An LDS Apostle’s Answers, Grounded in Mormon ‘Truth’”; “Opposing a Mormon Prophet, Seer, Revelator” by Sharon LindbloomSome Bruce R. McConkie resources:“Elder Bruce R. McConkie Dies” (May 1985)Mormon DoctrineDoctrinal New Testament Commentary (3 volumes)The Messiah Series (6 volumes)A New Witness for the Articles of Faith“Celestial Marriage”“All Are Alike Unto God”“Our Relationship with the Lord”“The Seven Deadly Heresies”“What Think Ye of Salvation by Grace?”“The Mystery of Godliness”“The Purifying Power of Gethsemane”Other resources:“Speaking with Authority: The Theological Influence of Elder Bruce R. McConkie” by David James BuergerBruce R. McConkie: Apostle and Polemicist, 1915-1985 by Devery AndersonSecond-Class Saints by Matthew HarrisConflict in the Quorum by Gary Bergera
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    1 hr and 48 mins
  • 191. Devery Anderson on LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie
    Dec 1 2025
    In this episode, we welcome Devery S. Anderson to discuss his book Bruce R. McConkie: Apostle and Polemicist, 1915-1985. Who was Elder Bruce R. McConkie, what is his lasting influence and why? What has made Bruce R. McConkie stand out, especially when one engages Mormon Doctrine and theology? From his many books, conference talks, firesides, and even private correspondence – McConkie has had incredible influence on the theological understanding and reputation of the LDS Church, both from the inside and the outside. Devery takes us through many of the behind-the-scenes controversies over McConkie’s book Mormon Doctrine and his famous talk “The Seven Deadly Heresies” – as well as his surprising role in President Kimball’s 1978 reversal on the temple and priesthood ban on black people. How did an LDS apostle so educated in the doctrinal disputes of the past engage with theological change? The answers to this, in combination with the answer given by those who opposed him, bring out tensions within the LDS mind and community that remain even today.Book: Bruce R. McConkie: Apostle and Polemicist, 1915-1985Other resources by Devery Anderson:- The Development of LDS Temple Worship, 1846-2000: A Documentary History- Joseph Smith’s Quorum of the Annointed, 1842-1845: A Documentary History- Emmett Till: The Murder That Shocked the World and Propelled the Civil Rights MovementSome resources by Elder Bruce R. McConkie:Doctrines of Salvation: Sermons and Writings of Joseph Fielding Smith (3 volumes)Mormon DoctrineDoctrinal New Testament Commentary (3 volumes)The Messiah Series (6 volumes)A New Witness for the Articles of Faith“Joseph Smith – The Mighty Prophet of the Restoration”“The Mystery of Mormonism”“All Are Alike Unto God”“Our Relationship with the Lord”“The Seven Deadly Heresies”“The Purifying Power of Gethsemane”Other resources:Second-Class Saints by Matthew HarrisConflict in the Quorum by Gary BergeraNote: The audio clips in the middle of the episode are a from a speech given by McConkie in 1978, however, there is no audio. BYU made this recording using someone else's voice.
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    2 hrs and 7 mins