• 08 - God Doesn't Want You on the Elevator
    Jun 24 2024

    Summary: Justin and Ben tackle the challenging topic of temptation in this episode, unpacking the phrase "lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil" from the Lord's Prayer. They explore how this prayer reveals God's desire to guide and protect us while addressing misconceptions about trials and temptations. They also discuss Jesus' example in the wilderness and how prayer plays a crucial role in accessing God's deliverance.

    (P.S. This episode was crafted by a robot. Hopefully, the Dusty Boys don't get canceled for it.)

    Should I Listen? If you're curious about how God leads us through trials and protects us from temptation, this episode is a must-listen. Justin and Ben offer practical insights on how to navigate challenges with God's guidance and overcome temptations.

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - Humorous Hooks: Justin and Ben start with satirical intros like "God will lead you into temptation unless you ask" and "God doesn't care unless you can get His attention."
      • [00:05:00] - Guilt and Shame: Justin discusses his struggle with guilt when believing that God only gives you what you can handle.
      • [00:09:30] - Reinterpreting the Lord's Prayer: They challenge the idea that God would lead us into temptation if we don't ask Him not to.
      • [00:14:30] - Trials vs. Temptations: Ben explains how trials are opportunities for growth, while temptations are grounded in lies that challenge our faith.
      • [00:20:30] - Trust in God's Goodness: They highlight how trusting God as a Father helps us understand His guidance through both trials and temptations.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:32:30] - Eddie: Shares how trials can lead to the temptation to doubt God's goodness.
      • [00:38:30] - Amé: Describes how Jesus' example in the wilderness shows that resting in God's Word is key to overcoming temptation.
      • [00:41:00] - Liz: Talks about rewiring her reactions through the Word and learning to respond rather than react to temptation.

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "Lead us not into temptation is not about avoiding struggles but finding God’s presence in them." - Ben
    • "The Word of God is always true. I don't have to make it true; it is reality." - Amé
    • "Reacting versus responding: I’ve learned to slow down and respond instead of reacting." - Liz

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Matthew 6:13: "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."
    • 1 Corinthians 10:13: "God will not let you be tempted beyond your ability."
    • The Odyssey of Love by John Peckham

    Cancel Corner: If you didn't catch the earlier episodes, we got canceled for praying through the Lord's Prayer and having a bit too much fun while doing it. If you're still upset, feel free to cancel us directly on our socials:

    • Justin's Instagram: @justinyourface
    • Ben's TikTok: @benwilliamstheman

    Until our next episode, let's get dusty!

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    48 mins
  • 07 - God Doesn't Always Expect You to Forgive Others
    Jun 17 2024

    Summary: Justin and Ben dive into the topic of forgiveness in this episode, challenging common misconceptions surrounding God's expectations and how we handle forgiveness with others. They discuss the nuances of forgiveness in the Lord's Prayer, examining how Jesus' teachings align with the broader message of grace. They emphasize that forgiveness is an invitation to receive God's forgiveness and to live transformed lives that naturally extend the same grace to others.

    (P.S. This episode was crafted by a robot. Hopefully, the Dusty Boys don't get canceled for it.)

    Should I Listen? If you're curious about what forgiveness truly means and how God's forgiveness shapes our relationships with others, this episode is for you. The Dusty Boys unpack the depth of God's grace and provide practical insights on how to walk in forgiveness.

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - Humorous Hooks: Justin and Ben start with satirical intros like "God doesn't always expect you to forgive others" and "God is waiting for you to forgive so that He can maybe forgive you."
      • [00:02:30] - Forgiveness and Hypocrisy: Justin discusses the hypocrisy of expecting forgiveness from others while withholding it.
      • [00:05:00] - Receiving Forgiveness Freely: Ben emphasizes that forgiveness is a free gift and how holding onto grudges leads to bitterness.
      • [00:09:00] - Forgiving as God Forgives: They explore the parable of the unforgiving servant in Matthew 18 and how it illustrates God's expectation for us to forgive.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:13:00] - Matthew: Shares his journey from constantly seeking forgiveness out of fear to resting in the assurance of God's grace.
      • [00:38:00] - Zyra: Describes how understanding that Jesus forgave both her sins and those committed against her released her from unforgiveness.

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "God forgives because He couldn't do otherwise; He is forgiveness." - Pam
    • "If we don't have the Spirit of God at work in us, how do we ever think we'll stop sinning?" - Justin
    • "Forgiveness is the only thing that opens the door to repentance." - Ben

    Resources Mentioned:

    • 2 Corinthians 5:19: "In Christ, God was reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them."
    • Acts 10:43: "Everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name."
    • The Peacemaker by Ken Sande

    Cancel Corner: If you think the Dusty Boys are beyond forgiveness and want to make them pay for it, you can find them on Instagram @jkhoe & @benjaminwilliams

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • 06 - Asian People Aren't Good at Praying
    Jun 10 2024

    Summary: In this episode, Justin and Ben explore the deeper meaning of "daily bread" in the Lord's Prayer. They discuss the concept of relying on God's provision and how it impacts our mindset, moving from scarcity to abundance. Justin reflects on how prayer and trusting God’s provision challenge us to live with an abundance mindset. They share humorous intros, relatable stories, and practical insights to bring this episode to life.

    (P.S. This episode contains gluten and was created by a robot. Let's hope the Dusty Boys don't get canceled for this.)

    Should I Listen? If you've ever wondered about the significance of "daily bread" in the Lord's Prayer or questioned how to live with an abundance mindset, this episode is for you. With practical reflections and relatable stories, the Dusty Boys will guide you toward a deeper understanding of daily reliance on God.

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - Humorous Hooks: Justin and Ben share exaggerated intros like "If you don't hit a big enough prayer request, God's not interested," and "Today we're looking at why it's harder for Asians to pray than for white people."
      • [00:02:30] - Daily Provision: Ben recounts how God provided for him during his move to Hawaii, and Justin reflects on how the prayer for daily bread challenges scarcity mindsets.
      • [00:05:30] - Trust and Planning: Ben emphasizes the importance of recognizing God's provision while planning for the future.
      • [00:08:00] - Jesus' Perspective: Justin discusses the connection between Jesus' provision for 5,000 and the prayer for daily bread.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:09:00] - Nick: "Living in abundance means I wouldn't worry about anything."
      • [00:10:30] - Ame: "Even if I work, I am not my own provider. God makes great things out of the little we do have."
      • [00:13:00] - Pam: "Give us this day our daily bread is an invitation to come to the table."

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "God has unlimited supply. We're not going to run out of fishy crackers." - Justin
    • "Living in abundance means less stress and more generosity." - Ben
    • "God wants to change the world, and He also wants to provide dinner tonight." - Ben (from a previous episode)

    Resources Mentioned:

    • The Lord and His Prayer by N.T. Wright
    • Colossians 3:2: "Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things."

    Cancel Corner:

    If you think daily bread is overrated and want Justin and Ben to stop talking about gluten, head over to their social profiles and let them know they're toast! 🍞 Justin: @jkhoe Ben: @benjaminwilliams

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    45 mins
  • 05 - God Cares More About His Law Than His Kids
    Jun 3 2024

    Summary: In this episode of the Dusty Boys podcast, Justin, Ben, and Patrick discuss misconceptions around God's kingdom and His will. They debunk the idea that God's will is a rigid, rule-based system and emphasize the relational, life-giving nature of God's kingdom. Patrick shares his journey of discovering God's true will for his life, while Ben and Justin offer insights on aligning prayer with God's broader vision.

    (P.S. Don't worry about Patrick's heretical intro. He's on the right track now.)

    Should I Listen? If you've struggled with understanding God's will for your life or wrestled with misconceptions about God's kingdom, this episode will bring clarity and comfort. Expect deep reflections, humorous anecdotes, and practical advice on aligning your prayer with God's heart.

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - False Intros: Justin starts with an exaggerated intro: "God has 100 percent completely abandoned humanity and all of earth. Let's get dusty."
      • [00:01:00] - Ben's example: "If you don't figure out what God wants and pray against it, He's actually going to curse you."
      • [00:01:30] - Patrick's attempt: "God is just going to bring His kingdom down and everything is just going to be fun."
      • [00:02:00] - Patrick shares his college experience feeling abandoned by God when he wasn't doing what he thought God wanted.
      • [00:03:30] - Ben: "We can often find ourselves believing we have more power over God's behavior than His character does."
      • [00:04:30] - Ben emphasizes that God's kingdom is about His loving rule that restores and heals rather than a rigid, punitive system.
      • [00:07:30] - Justin shares how he was afraid to pray for healing due to fear of misunderstanding God's will.
      • [00:09:30] - Patrick expresses his realization that pastoral ministry may not be God's will for him, finding fulfillment in counseling instead.
      • [00:11:00] - Ben: "God's kingdom is about calling people to be selfless and putting others first."
      • [00:13:30] - Ben encourages praying for God's kingdom to come to your community while also asking how you can help.
      • [00:15:30] - Aligning with God's will means trusting that He knows best how to fulfill His kingdom vision.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:25:00] - Joel: What is God's will in light of living in freedom?
      • [00:32:00] - Vanya: God's will is more than happiness; it's continuous joy in Him.
      • [00:39:00] - Zyda: God is greater than our earthly definitions of a good father.
      • [00:44:00] - Liz: God's kingdom is already here, and we should focus on Him.

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "We can often find ourselves believing we have more power over God's behavior than His character does." - Ben
    • "God's kingdom is not about being restrictive but calling us to selfless love and putting others first." - Justin
    • "God does desire for me to be happy, and that's okay." - Patrick

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Live No Lies by John Mark Comer
    • Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis

    Cancel Corner:

    • Justin: @jkhoe - "Cancel Justin for scaring Patrick into the truth with that coffee conversation."
    • Ben: @benjaminwilliams - "Cancel Ben for admitting to getting dusty in Europe and bringing bad jokes back to the podcast."
    • Patrick: @pking02_5 - "Cancel Patrick for not getting the heretical intro assignment r

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    57 mins
  • 04 - God Hates When You Whistle
    May 27 2024

    Summary:

    Join the Dusty Boys as they welcome another guest cohost, Anthony Lider, to the podcast. Together with Ben and Justin, they dive into the phrase "Hallowed be Thy Name" from the Lord's Prayer. Exploring misconceptions around God's holiness and how it relates to prayer, the hosts humorously share their past misunderstandings, discuss the character of God, and untangle toxic theology. Is God really mad if you whistle in church? Does He demand praise before listening? Find out how prayer can be more about reminding ourselves of who God truly is, and less about convincing Him to care. Let's get dusty!

    Should I Listen?

    Yes! If you've ever struggled with prayer, grown up with a distorted picture of God, or simply want to laugh while reclaiming healthy theology, this episode is for you.

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - Opening Intros: Ben, Justin, and Anthony take turns sharing comical misconceptions about prayer.
      • [00:04:30] - Series on Prayer: The hosts review the previous episode and explore the structure of the Lord's Prayer.
      • [00:06:30] - Misunderstanding Holiness: Ben and Anthony unpack misconceptions about "Hallowed be Thy Name."
      • [00:13:00] - God's Orientation: Ben explains that holiness is about being oriented toward something or someone.
      • [00:20:00] - Transactional Prayer vs. True Prayer: Justin reflects on transactional prayer vs. relational prayer.
      • [00:24:00] - Name as Character: Anthony highlights that God's name represents His character.
      • [00:30:00] - Prayer Exercise: Ben encourages listeners to pray "Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name" with intentionality.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:32:00] - Pam's Reflection: "Spiritual Amnesia" and how God reminds us who He is.
      • [00:36:00] - Stephanie's Insight: A counselor's perspective on the Holy Spirit's role in prayer.
      • [00:42:00] - Darwin's Revelation: Finding unity in the Trinity.

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "The one thing you can never let him know is that the God who he is speaking to is sitting right next to him on his bed." - Ben
    • "We're not convincing God to be who He is. We're reminding ourselves of who He is." - Justin
    • "We don't operate or relate to God by means of production or transaction, but of family." - Anthony

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Live No Lies by John Mark Comer
    • Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis

    Cancel Corner:

    For those looking to dig up dirt or just wanting to listen to more of Anthony, you can find him on the podcast Seeking What They Sought. Head to Keene SDA Church in Zion, Texas, where he's likely still whistling despite being warned not to. If you're still on the hunt to cancel him, follow Anthony on Instagram @aquamaneffect

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    55 mins
  • 03 - Prayer is So Silly
    May 20 2024

    Summary: In this episode of the Dusty Boys podcast, Justin, Benjamin, and Morgan delve into prayer and how it can sometimes feel silly or awkward. The hosts discuss how distractions during prayer can cause guilt and how being neurodivergent doesn't make you any less worthy. They also reflect on the challenges of slowing down in a hurried world and share practical insights for cultivating awareness of God's presence.

    (P.S. This summary was written by a robot who is learning to slow down and pray more. Hopefully, the Dusty Boys won't get canceled for this.)

    Should I Listen? Yes! If you struggle with finding stillness in your busy life or feel frustrated when your mind wanders during prayer, this episode offers empathy, practical advice, and humor.

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - "ADHD Distractions": Justin shares how his neurodivergence causes guilt when his mind wanders during prayer.
      • [00:10:00] - "Legalism in Prayer": Benjamin reflects on how prayer felt like a ritual to convince an angry God in his past.
      • [00:19:30] - "Jesus' Rhythms": Morgan discusses the importance of mirroring Jesus' rhythms of slowing down.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:32:00] - Ruthie: "How do I invite God into my work tasks?"
      • [00:38:30] - Liz: "Stillness means feeling emotions fully and inviting Jesus into them."

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "Prayer is not about convincing God to be with us; it's about us becoming aware of His ever-present presence." - Benjamin
    • "Jesus invites us to be with Him in all moments, even in the midst of our busyness." - Morgan
    • "I'm still worthy even if my ADHD distracts me during prayer." - Justin

    Resources Mentioned:

    • "God is Closer Than You Think" by John Ortberg
    • "Practicing the Presence of God" by Brother Lawrence

    Cancel Corner:
    Morgan's hard to cancel since she's everyone's favorite third cohost, but you can find her in future episodes, or try following her at @morgancancelme on social media. Justin is still joking about his spiritual ADHD, and Ben's busyness is only matched by his sarcasm. Try canceling the boys directly by following Justin @jkhoe and Ben @benjaminwilliams

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    51 mins
  • 02 - Bad News If You Have ADHD
    May 13 2024

    Summary:

    In this episode, Justin and Benjamin discuss the intersection of busyness, productivity, and being with Jesus. They challenge the cultural pressure to stay busy and how living slowly in the footsteps of Jesus brings genuine peace. If you're feeling overwhelmed by life's to-do list, this episode offers a refreshing take.

    (P.S. This summary was written by a robot. Let's hope it doesn't lead to the Dusty Boys getting canceled.)

    Should I Listen?

    Yes! If you've ever felt condemned for having an endless to-do list or thought that slowing down meant you're failing at life, this episode will help you redefine productivity and discipleship.

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - Opening Gimmicks: "If you have ADHD, you're going to hell."
      • [00:02:00] - Busyness vs. Business: The difference between genuine productivity and overburdening ourselves.
      • [00:06:00] - Slowing Down in Hawaii: How moving to the islands didn't automatically lead to a slower pace of life.
      • [00:08:30] - Jesus's Rhythm of Life: Jesus had time to stop for the marginalized because He wasn't rushed.
      • [00:13:00] - Lifestyle Creep: How our increasing lifestyles create self-imposed busyness.
      • [00:15:00] - Finding Peace in Slowness: Ruthlessly eliminating hurry from your life, as Dallas Willard advises.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:21:00] - Frank: "What does being still and slowing down look like practically?"
      • [00:25:00] - Liz: "How can I integrate stillness into daily life?"
      • [00:30:00] - Ame: "I burned out working 14-hour days. How do you handle comparisons?"
      • [00:34:00] - David: "I wake up and open my Bible app just to keep my streak alive. How do you break the guilt cycle?"

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "There's a difference between being productive and being busy."
    • "Eliminate hurry from your life if you want to disciple under Jesus."
    • "It's not about finding peace in perfection. It's about finding peace in stillness."

    Resources Mentioned:

    • "The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry" by John Mark Comer
    • "God is Closer Than You Think" by John Ortberg
    • "The Practice of the Presence of God" by Brother Lawrence

    Cancel Corner:

    Are you upset that Justin came for your favorite Netflix show? Cancel him @jkhoe. Did Ben ruffle your feathers by his disdain for hustle culture? Hustle on over to @benjaminwilliams to let him know!

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    45 mins
  • 01 - Angels Don't Watch Movies
    May 13 2024

    Summary:

    In this episode, Justin and Benjamin explore the myth that God only shows up for us if we show up perfectly for Him. They tackle common misconceptions about spending time with Jesus, why spiritual practices matter, and how to cultivate an intimate relationship with Him no matter where you are.

    (P.S. This summary was written by a robot. Let's hope it doesn't lead to the Dusty Boys getting canceled.)

    Should I Listen?

    Yes! If you've ever felt guilty for not spending enough time with Jesus or struggle to understand what it means to be with Him daily, this episode offers fresh perspectives on discipleship, intimacy, and debunking old myths about "quality time."

    Episode Highlights:

    1. Reflections:
      • [00:00:00] - Opening Gimmicks: If you have a Netflix subscription, God doesn't love you (joking, of course).
      • [00:03:00] - "Spending Time with Jesus": Exploring the misconception that we can earn God's favor by doing morning devotionals.
      • [00:06:30] - Jesus Doesn't Make Deals: How Jesus always loves us, even when we're busy or imperfect.
      • [00:10:00] - Martin Luther's Quote: "Unless I spend two hours each morning with God, the devil gets the victory during the day."
      • [00:12:30] - Shifting Language: Moving from "time with Jesus" to "living with Jesus."
      • [00:16:00] - Living with Jesus in All Moments: Whether in a movie theater, on a golf course, or doing dishes, Jesus is always with us.
    2. Conversations:
      • [00:27:00] - Frank: "Martin Luther said, 'Unless I spend two hours each morning with God, the devil gets the victory.' What do you think about that?"
      • [00:29:00] - Nick: "Ceaselessly praying helps me realize God's presence in all things."
      • [00:32:00] - David: "I get up and open my Bible app just to keep my streak going. How do you break away from this pressure?"
      • [00:39:00] - Pam: "Even if you don't do a lot in a devotional, thank God for the intentional time."

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "Whether you're in the movie theater, on the golf course, or at home washing dishes, Jesus is with you."
    • "It's not about inviting God to be with us. It's realizing He's already here."
    • "We're not spending time with Jesus to convince Him to help us. We're spending time with Him to realize He's already present."

    Resources Mentioned:

    • "Practicing the Presence of God" by Brother Lawrence
    • "The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry" by John Mark Comer
    • "God is Closer Than You Think" by John Ortberg

    Cancel Corner:

    You may not appreciate Justin’s approach to prayer, but don’t worry. If you want to cancel him, you can find him @jkhoe on Instagram. Or, if you prefer to cancel someone over spiritual nuance and sarcasm (because that’s TOTALLY not a gift of the Spirit), find him at @benjaminwilliams

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    53 mins