Buckle up! You're gonna wanna take notes, because in this convo, Stef and Carolyn talk with the indomitable Kayla Jeter and Charlie Dark!

This episode was recorded live, from The View Boston, during the Boston Marathon weekend -- exactly one month following the completion of lululemon's Further ultramarathon project.

We spoke about how we define ourselves and the importance of separating what we do from who we are. Charlie shared the impact of receiving Great Britain's MBE for his service and long-withstanding impacts on the community, as well as how running and training have evolved since he first entered the sport -- and what still needs to be done looking ahead. Kayla dove into her experience as a Black woman leader in a realm that often challenges accessibility, and the deeply personal significance to her of getting more people excited about health.

We are experiencing a movement right now, not a moment.

A movement that acknowledges culture and how diversity is what makes culture great.

A movement that underscores inclusivity and bridge-building as the way forward.

A movement that ultimately elevates, betters, and benefits everyone.

We are so grateful to be a small part of it, and we hope you enjoy this convo as much as we did!

Show Notes:

Start: bios and intro by Boston Community Lead, Sarah Mulvanity

3:50 - overview of convo for the day, focusing on the running journeys of Kayla and Charlie

5:10 - personal intros by each speaker, answering “who are you?”

8:00 - the significance of Charlie receiving Great Britain’s “M.B.E.” and what it represents to him personally, as well as its social and historical impact

15:20 - what role did movement have in each of Kayla and Charlie’s upbringing

22:30 - Charlie discusses the shift from hedonism to health

30:10 - Kayla’s experience as a Black woman, on accessibility and privilege in running

35:25 - deep dive into lululemon Further!

37:40 - each person’s goals before, during, and after the ultramarathon (starting with Stef, then Kayla, then Charlie)

54:05 - “if you want to go fast, go alone; but if you want to go further, go together.”

1:01:00 - start of Q&A

Links:

Kayla on IG

100 Miles of Summer

Charlie on IG

Run Dem Crew

Further Highlights, ⁠vol. 1⁠ and ⁠vol. 2⁠

⁠More on Further⁠

Find Stef ⁠here⁠.

Find Carolyn ⁠here⁠ and ⁠here⁠.