FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions. This episode was recorded on the 17th of May 2024, 20u, at O. festival in Rotterdam.

For each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

In this episode:

(01:40) Laura [°1998 - Haarlem, NL] on (not) being taken seriously in her entity as an art historian, writing for platform De KunstMeisjes: the Art Girls.

(04:54) Beverly [°1974 - USA] on feeling excluded, all the time, in her life as a filmmaker, artist and librettist. As a visible minority, you cannot not notice it. Eg. in pitching ideas for gatekeepers: they should fit into a "minority life". Gun crimes and prostitution.

(11:10) Vernon [°1984 - Curaçao] wants his mother to be her full self. To pursue her 19-year old dreams, after she pursued her children's dreams first, in intense self-sacrifice. "Go for it mama. It ain't over till it's over".

(16:42) What do you deserve?

Tieche [°1977 - Rotterdam, NL] : to be more self-confident, and not be in doubt forever.

Maaike [°1999 - Tuitjenhoorn, NL] : was doubting to come to the middle, because everything she would say should be perfect. She deserves : to speak, whether it is important or not.

Chabelle [°1993 - Rotterdam, NL] : to not live in fear or prosecution because of the government turning against you.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Intern: Tor Lindquist

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

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