In this episode, Cameron Madgwick shares his unplanned and diverse career journey, detailing his transitions in and out of the legal industry and his eventual rise to CEO of Gibson Sheet.

Cameron begins by discussing his early career at Russell McVeagh and his subsequent roles with New Zealand Rugby, New Zealand Oil and Gas, Contact Energy and PEP ANZ. Each position provided him with valuable experiences, highlighting the importance of context, communication, and understanding stakeholder perspectives.

In his current role at Gibson Sheet, Cameron outlines a strategic focus on people, clients, and technology, including the implementation of a profit-share scheme and the transition to a new practice management system.

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00:00 Introduction and Career Beginnings 00:32 Sponsorship Message from VXT 01:08 Cameron's Journey into Law 03:25 First Role at Russell McVeigh 07:40 Transition to In-House and New Zealand Rugby 10:10 Leadership and Stakeholder Engagement 18:37 Becoming a CEO 22:30 Current Role at Gibson Sheet 27:24 People, Clients, and Technology Strategy 41:46 Quick Fire Questions and Conclusion

Amy Leong is a lawyer, podcaster, and advocate for female legal professionals to burn bright, not out. Amy shares her personal account of experiencing burnout, anxiety, and depression in what she thought was her dream job. She discusses the warning signs she ignored, the importance of a supportive workplace culture, and the steps she took to seek help and recover.

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Amy also delves into her journey in law, from her early inspirations to her current role. The episode is rich with practical advice for recognizing burnout, coping mechanisms, and creating a healthy work-life balance.

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Connect with Amy here: ⁠Website⁠ // ⁠Linkedin⁠ // ⁠Instagram⁠ // ⁠Facebook⁠ // ⁠Spotify⁠ // ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

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Scott Moran shares his journey of making the hard decision to leave Duncan Cotterill, one of New Zealand’s largest law firms, after 28 years to establish his own boutique law firm, Moran Law.

He discusses the challenges and lessons learned from opening the Duncan Cotterill office in Wellington and offers insights into effective leadership and maintaining a positive law firm culture.

Scott also provides his perspective on the impact of AI on the legal profession and IP law, the challenges of harmonizing IP laws across jurisdictions, and the importance of personal branding for lawyers.

Additionally, he talks about his governance roles, what he has gained from them, and advice for lawyers aspiring to join boards. The episode provides valuable takeaways for legal professionals considering starting their own firm or looking to grow within their current roles.

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In this episode, we sit down with Renika Siciliano, the Executive Director of McCaw Lewis. Renika leads the firm's exceptional and passionate lawyers in the Te Tiriti o Waitangi and workplace law areas. Renika provides legal and strategic advice to clients across Aotearoa, New Zealand and has extensive experience in matters relating to Treaty settlement negotiations, Māori governance and iwi disputes.

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Growing up in a tight-knit community of just 3000 people, Renika shares her journey into law and why she's remained dedicated to McCaw Lewis throughout her career. We explore her remarkable rise to Executive Director in just 12 years and the pivotal matters she's been involved in, including the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act.

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Renika offers fascinating insights into negotiating with the Crown, shedding light on common misconceptions about treaty settlements.

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Renika has been recognized as one of NZ Lawyer's Most Influential Lawyers and Elite Women, as well as a Doyles Leading Māori Law practitioner.

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Joshua Reimer

In this episode, we sit down with Joshua Reimer, the managing director and founder of Johnston Reimer Lawyers, for an insightful conversation about building and scaling a successful law firm from the ground up.

Starting with just a small corner office 8 years ago, Joshua and his team at Johnston Reimer Lawyers have grown exponentially over the years, now boasting a team of 50 employees. Rapid growth comes with it's own unique set of challenges. Joshua's shares his insights on navigating these hurdles from managing cash flow, selecting technology to maintaining a positive workplace culture.

One of the firm's key areas of focus is providing justice and support to victims of crime, a mission that drives much of their work. Joshua shares the unique challenges and rewards of this practice area, emphasizing the importance of empathy and understanding in serving clients who have experienced trauma.

A core pillar of Johnston Reimer Lawyers' success lies in their innovative approach to technology. By putting in place cloud-based systems right from the very start, Joshua and his team are at the forefront of leveraging technology to streamline legal processes and better serve their clients. We explore their tech stack, including tools like Actionstep and VXT and discuss the potential impact of AI on the future of the legal industry.

As the firm continues to grow, Joshua reflects on the challenges ahead and shares valuable advice for aspiring lawyers. His insights into maintaining workplace culture, embracing innovation, and prioritizing personal growth offer invaluable lessons for anyone on the path to success in the legal world.

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In this episode, we speak with Sarah Salmond, a commercial lawyer and Partner at MinterEllisonRuddWatts. Sarah found her calling in the world of international trade through a chance encounter while waitressing.

Sarah gives us an insider's view of her intriguing journey, from her first exposure to World Trade Organization meetings in Geneva, to her stint at the OECD in Paris, and her transformative decision to retrain as a lawyer in her early 30s. She shares her experiences of establishing new law firm practices and advising clients on the full spectrum of public, regulatory and international trade law matters.

A significant portion of our discussion addresses the tightrope women walk as they juggle work and family responsibilities. Sarah emphasizes the critical role of mentorship and strategic support systems in fostering women's advancement in the legal profession. She candidly discusses the pressing issue of burnout and overwork, underscoring the need for organizations to monitor work patterns and enforce policies to prevent burnout.

As we navigate the complexities of international trade, Sarah sheds light on emerging trends and challenges, including the proliferation of sanctions, the imperative for businesses to diversify and hedge risks in the current geopolitical climate, and the need for innovative market access strategies to supplement traditional trade agreements. Sarah speaks about shares her active governance roles with the New Zealand International Business Forum and AmCham New Zealand, and her passionate advocacy for law reforms that will deliver widespread benefits for New Zealand businesses, like enabling paperless trade.

‍Robert Ambrogi

In this episode, Luke sits down with Bob Ambrogi, a notable figure bridging law, journalism, and legal tech. Bob shares his journey, which began with a professor's advice to study law for a deeper understanding of journalism. This advice set him on a path that merged legal practice with legal journalism, leading to his creation of LawSites, one of the first blogs exploring the impact of the internet on law and subsequently, a popular podcast; LawNext.

Bob discusses the shift in news media and the challenges faced by business models in the digital age. Drawing from his early experiences in publishing a local paper, he talks about the difficulties in monetizing content despite growing readership, influenced by social media and the fast pace of today's news.

A key part of our talk focuses on AI's role in transforming legal services. Bob predicts major changes in how legal practices operate, the evolving nature of lawyer-client relationships, and the emergence of new service providers. He highlights the potential of AI to make legal help more accessible while cautioning about its current limitations.

Bob also shares practical advice for those starting a legal podcast. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on quality content and guests, and provides tips on consistency, investing in travel recording kits, and leveraging spontaneous guest interactions.

Join us as Bob Ambrogi guides us through the intertwined worlds of law, journalism, and technology, offering insights from his unique perspective at the intersection of these evolving fields.

Episode 13

Your host for this episode is Luke Campbell.

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⁠Matthew Vaughan⁠

In this episode, we delve into legal technology trends with Matthew Vaughan, the Chief Information Officer at Tompkins Wake law firm in New Zealand. Join us as Matthew sheds light on the firm's recent transition from legacy systems to cutting-edge cloud-based tools, offering valuable insights into the strategic decisions, challenges, and transformative journey that define this technological evolution.

Matthew takes us back to mid-2019 when he joined Tompkins Wake and shares his pivotal role in steering the firm through the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic, facilitating a rapid and effective transition to remote work during New Zealand's lockdowns in 2020.

The heart of the episode revolves around Tompkins Wake's ambitious project over the last 18 months—a comprehensive transition from on-premises systems to a state-of-the-art cloud-based practice management platform. Matthew navigates through the drivers behind this transformation, the meticulous criteria for vendor selection, and the implementation challenges encountered along the way.

A crucial aspect of this technological shift is emphasized—the importance of understanding internal processes and requirements. Matthew highlights the significance of process mapping workflows, distinguishing must-have from optional criteria, and navigating the mindset shifts necessary when assessing new systems relative to legacy ones.

The conversation then delves into the intricacies of data migration and change management, unraveling key pain points in areas such as data cleanup and enhancement, along with the communication struggles inherent in managing change during the cloud migration implementation.

Looking towards the future, Matthew shares his insights on technology trends reshaping the legal landscape, particularly the role of AI and automation in redefining law firm differentiation and competitive positioning. Integration capabilities and execution emerge as pivotal factors in staying at the forefront of technological innovation.

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