Multi-talented artist and hilarious human River Ramirez joins us for a chat about their journey to androgyny, the intersection of activism and self-care, and the Christian rock band "Underoath."

Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world.

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Writer Thomas Page McBee shares about his personal and professional journey examining and reimagining masculinity. Content warning for gun violence at timecodes 28:48 to 31:36.

Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world.

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Check out Babette's 3D Virtual Walking Tour of West Oakland at: westoaklandyesterdaytodaytomorrow.com

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Gender Spiral TIME TRAVEL EDITION! Chef and restauranteur Halo Perez-Gallardo of Lil' Deb's Oasis in Hudson, NY talks to Ally about emotion, evolution, and good eats as they reflect on clips from the first time Ally interviewed them in 2020.

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