Chronic fatigue patients often focus on infections and toxins while missing a critical piece of the puzzle: structural dysfunction and lymphatic drainage. Dr. Eric Gordon sits down with Dr. Raymond Perrin, the osteopath whose groundbreaking research in the early 1990s revealed how thoracic spine dysfunction and impaired neurolymphatic flow drive neuroinflammation in ME/CFS.

Dr. Perrin explains why treating the sympathetic nervous system through spinal manipulation and cranial work can restore glymphatic drainage from the brain, and how structural injuries create the conditions for toxin accumulation and persistent inflammation that keep people chronically ill.

Episode Highlights:

• Thoracic spine dysfunction activates sympathetic overdrive and blocks lymphatic drainage, creating conditions for neuroinflammation and chronic illness.
• The glymphatic system drains toxins from the brain through specific pathways that malfunction in ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, and Long COVID.
• Structural injuries and spinal misalignments create the underlying conditions that allow infections or toxins to trigger chronic illness

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1. [0:02:27] Thoracic Spine & Sympathetics Drive ME/CFS Mechanisms
2. [0:08:59] Lymphatics Are Neurologically Driven, Not Passive Tubes
3. [0:20:10] Neurolymphatic / Glymphatic System Clears Brain Toxins
4. [0:30:57] The Perrin Technique: Five Signs & a Drainage Strategy
5. [0:57:55] Long COVID as a Neuro‑Lymphatic Drainage Failure

About Raymond Perrin, DO, PhD

Dr. Raymond Perrin is an osteopath and researcher who has specialized in ME/CFS since 1989, when he discovered that treating thoracic spine dysfunction resolved chronic fatigue symptoms in a cyclist. He earned his doctorate in 2005 from the University of Salford for his groundbreaking work on cerebrospinal fluid and lymphatic drainage in ME/CFS, introducing the concept of the neurolymphatic system years before the glymphatic system was officially recognized.

Learn more https://theperrintechnique.com/

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Chronic illness often traps people in a cycle where treatments stop working, and the body can reject everything, even gentle remedies. Dr. Eric Gordon sits down with Dr. Cathleen King, who spent over a decade housebound with Lyme, mold illness, and multiple chemical sensitivities before discovering that nervous system work was the missing piece in her recovery.

They discuss why addressing the Cell Danger Response and vagus nerve dysfunction comes first, before protocols and treatments can actually work. And also how simple daily practices can shift someone from reactive and bedbound to functional again, and why trauma processing and somatic work matter as much as any medical intervention.

Episode Highlights:

• The body stuck in Cell Danger Response will reject treatments until the nervous system signals safety through vagus nerve toning and limbic system retraining.
• Simple daily practices, such as specific breathing patterns, eye movements, and humming, can restore basic function within days to weeks for highly sensitive patients.
• Brain retraining without vagus nerve work first often fails because people with trauma histories find safety and calm threatening rather than healing.
• Somatic work and posture directly affect the autonomic nervous system through the upper cervical spine and suboccipital tension.
• Real resilience means developing the capacity to feel difficult emotions and life disruptions without crashing back to ground zero.
• Integration takes precedence over finding perfect protocols when the nervous system is dysregulated and reactive to everything.

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[0:01:07] Kathleen King’s Personal Experience and Development of 'Primal Trust'

[0:03:52] The Need for Scientific Understanding About the Nervous System

[0:07:21] Vagus Nerve Toning Tools and Practical Exercises

[0:09:38] Sequencing of Tools and Safety in Brain Retraining

[0:13:34 Processing Emotions is Necessary for True Resilience

[0:18:52]The Role of the Body’s Physical Structure and Awareness

About Cathleen King, DPT

Dr. Cathleen King is a physical therapist and neuroscience-based mind-body practitioner. Her professional focus is on chronic illness and trauma healing. She is the founder and CEO of Primal Trust, a rapidly growing global platform that helps people unlock their self-healing. Her online program combines brain retraining, vagus nerve toning, somatics, and trauma-informed practices.

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Galectin-3 is emerging as a key driver of chronic inflammation, yet most people have never heard of it. This protein creates inflammatory microenvironments that trap immune cells, disrupt circulation, promote fibrosis, and accelerate disease progression throughout the body.

In this episode, Dr. Eric Gordon speaks with Ruby Tischoff about how elevated Galectin-3 contributes to neurodegeneration, cardiovascular dysfunction, and systemic immune dysregulation, and what can be done about it.

Episode Highlights:

• How Galectin-3 organizes inflammatory microenvironments that impair vascular and organ function
• The connection between elevated Galectin-3 and neurodegeneration, heart disease, and immune dysfunction
• Strategies to reduce Galectin-3 activity, including Pectasol modified citrus pectin, mindfulness practices, and targeted nutrition

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[0:00:00] Galectin-3 Drives Chronic Inflammation and Fibrosis

[0:05:00] Toxins Elevate Galectin-3 and Fuel Neurodegenerative Disease

[0:10:00] Modified Citrus Pectin as a Galectin-3 Inhibitor and Detox Agent

[0:15:00] Broad Detox Benefits of Modified Citrus Pectin

[0:20:00] Galectin-3 Testing Limitations and Considerations

About Ruby Tischoff, FDN-P

Ruby Tischoff, FDN-P, is Director of Education for ecoNugenics, a functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner and natural health expert with over 25 years of experience in integrative medicine and nutraceutical science.

Ruby has worked closely under the clinical mentorship of renowned physician Isaac Eliaz, MD, and is a recognized expert in the fields of galectin-3 research and therapeutic targeting, safe detoxification, and nutritional science, among other areas.

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Toxoplasma gondii is one of the most common yet overlooked parasites affecting human health, with potential links to chronic illness and neuropsychiatric symptoms that often go undiagnosed. In this episode, Dr. Eric Gordon sits down with Dr. Eboni Cornish to explore the far-reaching effects of this elusive organism and why so many cases slip through the cracks.

Episode Highlights:

• Neurological and psychiatric changes associated with parasites
• Toxoplasmosis gondii and its impact on chronic illness
• Comprehensive approach to diagnosis and treatment

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(00:00): Parasites often get missed in neurology + psych cases
(04:45): Why U.S. patients may be more vulnerable to parasites
(09:30): Practical screening clues + common parasites to consider
(14:40): Toxoplasmosis and severe psychiatric/neurologic presentations
(22:10): Brain imaging patterns that can guide treatment strategy

About Eboni Cornish, MD

Dr. Eboni Cornish, a highly regarded physician, provides integrative medicine services to a diverse global patient community. Currently serving as the Functional Medicine Director of the Amen Clinic East Coast Division, she specializes in autoimmune diseases, Lyme disease, Morgellons disease, environmental toxicity, gut imbalances, neurology, and various other chronic conditions.

Learn more about Dr. Cornish: https://amenclinics.com/

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Sacred plant medicine is moving from indigenous traditions into Western healing practices, but the gap between these two approaches raises important questions. Jason Prall and Dr. Nafysa Parpia dig into what's being lost in translation, the training, cultural context, and respect for traditions that have guided safe and effective use of these medicines for generations.

They discuss practical concerns about who should be working with these plants, why intention and preparation matter, and what actually creates lasting change. The conversation touches on the prophecy of the Condor and the Eagle, a vision of indigenous and Western cultures learning from each other, and why the real work begins after the ceremony ends.

Episode Highlights:

• Western adoption needs proper training and respect for indigenous traditions, not just copying ceremonies without understanding the context.
• Plant medicines affect the nervous system, immune function, and self-awareness as tools for healing, not quick fixes.
• Real transformation happens through ongoing integration work after the ceremony, not during the experience itself.

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(01:57) Understanding the Power of New Tools

(09:58) Exploring Healing Through Energetic Practices

(15:45) Exporting Ancient Traditions for Global Awakening

(26:15) Path of Sacred Plant Medicines

(29:13) Exploring Paths in Shamanic Practice

About Jason Prall

Jason Prall is a health educator, practitioner, author, and filmmaker. He created "The Human Longevity Project," a 9-part film series examining chronic disease in the modern world, and owns Cereset in Encinitas, CA, a brain-balancing center treating traumatic brain injuries, PTSD, anxiety, and fatigue. He's the author of "Beyond Longevity: A Proven Plan for Healing Faster, Feeling Better, and Thriving at Any Age" and is currently producing a film series exploring indigenous healing practices from around the world.

Learn more about Jason Prall: https://awakenedhealthacademy.com/

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Dr. Eric Gordon and investigative science journalist Gez Medinger return for a five-year update on the evolving science of Long COVID. Together, they explore what has changed, what still challenges researchers, and where new hope is emerging for those living with post-viral illness.

Their conversation examines the latest findings on immune and metabolic disruption, why many clinical trials have yielded disappointing results, and what current data reveal about viral persistence, mitochondrial dysfunction, and recovery pathways. They also discuss treatments showing promise, along with a growing emphasis on individualized approaches to managing complex chronic illness.

Episode highlights
• Why many trials have failed and what this shows about the complexity of Long COVID
• New biomarkers related to immune, metabolic, and mitochondrial function
• Findings on viral persistence, brainstem inflammation, and energy metabolism
• Updates on low-dose naltrexone, niacin, fasting, and rapamycin research
• The importance of personalized medicine and whole-system regulation
• Reasons for optimism for those navigating post-viral illness

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(06:52) Personalized Medicine and Biomarkers

(10:54) Antibody Variants in Long COVID

(16:51) Listen to Your Body, Keep Trying

(23:47) Viral Persistence in the Immune System

(28:13) Exploring LDN Treatment Mechanisms

(31:58) Similarities Between ME-CFS and Long COVID

(35:51) Symptoms and Impact of Long COVID

(41:02) Managing Heat Intolerance in Dysautonomia

(48:55) Potential Benefits of Low-Dose Treatments

About Gez Medinger

Gez Medinger is an investigative science journalist and patient advocate for Long COVID. His YouTube channel has over 6 million views, and he is the author of The Long COVID Handbook.

Learn more about his book The Long COVID Handbook https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/453380/the-long-covid-handbook-by-altmann-gez-medinger-and-professor-danny/9781529900125

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Dr. Nafysa Parpia joins Dr. Eric Gordon to explore how peptides and bioregulators are transforming the treatment of chronic illnesses, particularly for patients with mast cell activation syndrome and complex inflammatory conditions.

They discuss the evolution of peptide therapy, the role of bioregulators in cellular healing, and emphasize the critical importance of personalized dosing, addressing underlying inflammation, and understanding the body's compensatory mechanisms before introducing these advanced therapies.

Episode Highlights:

• Mast cell activation syndrome often complicates chronic illness treatment and requires careful therapeutic approaches.
• Peptides and bioregulators offer new approaches to cellular healing when used strategically in complex cases.
• Understanding the body's compensatory mechanisms is crucial before introducing advanced therapies.
• Persistent underlying inflammation must be addressed for peptide and bioregulator therapies to be effective.
• Personalized dosing and creating a clean physiological environment are essential for sensitive patients responding to treatment.

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(03:59) Herbal Approach to Mast Cell Activation

(10:34) Peptide Therapy for Chronic Illness

(17:35) Clinical Observations in Treatment Development

(28:43) Personalized Medicine With Peptides and Bioregulators

(35:21) Using Peptides for Healing and Recovery

(41:10) Neurotropic Peptides and Brain Health

(44:38) Faster Recovery With Dose Reduction

About Dr. Nafysa Parpia

Long before peptide therapy became a buzzword in the medical community, Dr. Parpia recognized its potential as a groundbreaking approach for treating complex chronic illnesses.

For over a decade, she has been at the forefront of this field, refining my techniques through extensive research and clinical experience.

This early adoption and dedication have allowed Dr. Parpia to develop a deep expertise in using these powerful molecular tools.

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Patrick Ussher developed ME/CFS after recovering from POTS and fibromyalgia. When his condition worsened, he was drinking six to eight liters of water daily while feeling like he was "drying up inside."

Doctors dismissed his excessive thirst as psychological, but Patrick refused to accept this diagnosis and began his own research journey, leading to groundbreaking insights about blood volume and ME/CFS.

In the latest episode of the Gordon Medical Forum podcast, Dr. Eric Gordon talks with Patrick Ussher, a health advocate and ME/CFS patient who has turned his struggle into a mission to educate others.

Drawing on research from Professors Wirth and Scheibenbogen, Patrick explores how calcium overload, disrupted sodium dynamics, and blood volume issues challenge conventional thinking about ME/CFS.

Episode Highlights:

• Suppressed blood volume regulation explains mysterious, persistent thirst in ME/CFS patients
• Muscle cell calcium overload may drive post-exertional malaise
• Low blood volume triggers nervous system stress and brain inflammation
• Patient-led research reveals overlooked physiological mechanisms in chronic illness

Additional Resources:

• Buteyko Breathing Method
• Perrin Technique
• Annie Hopper DNRS: Dynamic Neural Retraining System
• Alex Howard Nervous System Reset Program
• Primal Trust: Brain Retraining, Body-Based Somatic Practices, Vagus Nerve Toning, and more

Additional Research Links:

• https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10766651/
• https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39727052/

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