Josh Koenig and David Strauss are co-founders at Pantheon, a platform for building and operating websites. Josh is the chief strategy officer, and David is the CTO. Open source software is a big part of the web, and Pantheon is a downstream user as well as a contributor to several open source projects. David is an early contributor to systemd, a component of Linux distributions, a member of the Drupal security team, and was a founding member of the first Fedora Server working group in 2011.

Josh and David share their views as downstream consumers of open source software as well as members of the community, touching on why enterprises don't contribute more to open source, the approach to open source policy and licensing changes by two different major vendors in Red Hat and HashiCorp, efforts to shore up the security of the web by moving to memory-safe languages, and more. Come for the industry insights, and stay for the many colorful analogies in this discussion, from tugboats to tofurkey.

Editor's Note: This episode was recorded before IBM agreed to acquire HashiCorp.

Justin Warren is founder and principal analyst at PivotNine, a technology consulting and analyst firm based in Melbourne, Australia. Until 2023, he was a board member at Electronic Frontiers Australia, a non-profit national organization representing Internet users. At KubeCon North America last year, he asked a press conference panel of enterprise IT leaders what they were doing to compensate open source maintainers "so they don't starve to death." A self-described "filthy socialist," Warren favors a tax or tax-like system for funding open source libraries that are widely used but not full-fledged products -- especially when the alternative is an offer from a malicious actor maintainers can't refuse. Together, Warren and Beth explore various approaches to shoring up the maintenance, security and sustainability of open source software and discuss the future outlook for the industry in this episode.

Emily Fox has held multiple roles at household-name organizations in her 13-year IT career and is currently senior principal software engineer at Red Hat. Previously, she worked as an engineer at Apple, and DevOps Security Lead at the National Security Agency. She also serves as chair of the CNCF's technical oversight committee and is involved in a variety of open source communities and activities.

From her unique vantage point, she addresses the delicate balance the CNCF must strike between enterprises, open source maintainers and open product companies; growing awareness about open source sustainability issues; and how all of that feeds into a general "crisis of conscience" going on in cybersecurity.