Jesus & Politics - The Foursquare Perspective

By: Isaac Hovet & Mark Chester
  • Summary

  • Welcome to Jesus & Politics from the Foursquare Perspective. Knowing that pastors and leaders are feeling the pressure of leading through politically tumultuous times, we delve into the rich tapestry of our faith’s belief, ethos, and history to find enduring wisdom for today’s political landscapes. This is not just a podcast; it’s a pilgrimage through the crossroads of theology and society, seeking Jesus’ footsteps in the public square.
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Episodes
  • Episode 7 - IMPOSTER HEALERS
    Jul 8 2024

    In this episode, we continue our mini-series on "Political Imposters" with a focus on "Imposter Healers." Our special guest is Heidi Messner, a Foursquare pastor from the North Seattle area (Everett) who has pastored in both progressive Humboldt County and conservative Everett, and served in elected positions on City Councils.

    Cultural Dynamic:

    We delve into the cultural and political dynamics that promise healing and reconciliation but fall short. Using the historical context of Gettysburg and Lincoln's vision of healing after the Civil War, we highlight the ongoing struggle for true national reconciliation. Despite attempts at political healing, our nation remains deeply fractured, pointing us to the need for a greater healer.

    Biblical/Theological Framing:

    We discuss how Jesus, as our ultimate healer, brings about true reconciliation and life. Unlike nations and governments that are intrinsically limited and exclusionary, Jesus' healing transcends boundaries and offers genuine restoration. We explore how scriptures reframe our understanding of healing and address political angst, emphasizing Jesus' role as the great mediator who reconciles God to humankind and humans to one another. Heidi and Andrew bring insights into how Jesus’ model of healing through servant leadership and listening contrasts with the coercive and control-oriented approaches of political systems. Drawing from Henri Nouwen's writings, we discuss the power of leading from brokenness and humility, and the importance of listening as a pathway to healing.

    Ideas for Action:

    We offer practical steps to help our communities see Jesus as the true source of healing. How can we embody servant leadership and create spaces for listening and reconciliation? We discuss resources and plans to foster a deeper understanding of Jesus' healing power in our lives and communities. For further reading and to ask questions, check out the links to "Postcards from Babylon," "Scandalous Witness," and visit jesuspolitics.org.

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    46 mins
  • Episode 6: Jesus as Savior - IMPOSTER SAVIORS
    Jun 20 2024

    In this episode, we kick off our four-part mini-series based on the imposters of the Foursquare Gospel: Savior, Healer, Baptizer with the Spirit, and Soon and Coming King. We begin by exploring "Imposter Saviors" in the political arena.

    We examine the belief that American politics is the ultimate solution to the world's problems and the dangerous conflation of flag and faith. We discuss how political movements promise salvation and mirror idolatrous tendencies, drawing parallels to the communal nature of today's superheroes like the Avengers versus the individualistic hero worship in our political system.

    We delve into the tendency to place messianic expectations on political leaders and how worldly powers draw us into a false narrative, overshadowing the true drama of history marked by Jesus, the cross, and the resurrection. Lee C. Camp's provocative insights from "Scandalous Witness" highlight the incompatibility of the nation-state with the Kingdom of God.

    We then reframe these cultural issues biblically, discussing the dangers of relying on political leaders for salvation and emphasizing the importance of trusting Jesus over worldly systems. We reflect on the early church's experience of navigating a world where Christianity wasn't yet entwined with government, contrasting with today's complexities.

    Finally, we present actionable ideas for engagement, including the nuanced topic of voting, and share personal experiences and perspectives on the tension between faith and political participation. We conclude with a thought-provoking quote from Brian Zahnd's "Postcards from Babylon."

    For further reading and to ask questions, check out the links to "Postcards from Babylon," "Scandalous Witness," and visit jesuspolitics.org.

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    51 mins
  • Episode 5 - Demonic Partisan Vitriol with Andrew Williams & Mark Chester
    Jun 13 2024

    CULTURAL ISSUE: Partisan Vitriol

    We dive into the pervasive issue of partisan vitriol and the difficulty of navigating a two-party system. We acknowledge the understandable desire to keep politics out of church discussions, given how partisan politics can be wielded as a bludgeoning force. The binary divide forces individuals into an either/or stance, requiring them to adopt the identity of LEFT or RIGHT. This demonization of the opposing side creates an unsafe environment for policy discussions. However, this language reflects the preferences of those in power.

    BIBLICAL REFRAMING

    Andrew leads a discussion on the role of the church, the polis, and how biblical principles can guide us through the complexities of political partisanship.

    IDEAS: Truth over Tribe

    We wrap up with practical ideas on how to prioritize truth over tribal allegiance, fostering a community that values honest discourse and mutual respect. Tune in for a candid and insightful conversation that challenges us to rise above partisan divides and seek the Kingdom of God in all aspects of our lives.

    QUESTIONS: Please head over to jesuspolitics.org! to submit any questions or comments!

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    52 mins

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