Episodes

  • Cupid and Psyche with C.S. Lewis
    Apr 26 2024

    Alicia interviews C.S. Lewis (metaphorically) on how to retell a fairy tale in the light of Scripture. Lewis’s masterful novel Till We Have Faces (1956), a retelling of the fairy tale “Cupid and Psyche,” expresses the beauty of the gospel in the language of Greek/pagan mythology. Topics discussed include a little of Lewis’s journey in writing this story and his artistic process; his brilliant interpretation of the unseen husband, the sin of jealousy, and the veil images from the fairy tale; and the intersection of research and craft.

    Resources

    • Huttar, Charles (2009) "What C.S. Lewis Really Did to "Cupid and Psyche"," Sehnsucht: The C. S. Lewis. Journal: Vol. 3 : Iss. 1, Article 4. DOI: https://doi.org/10.55221/1940-5537.1027
    • Ancrene Riwle — medieval text, includes an allegory of the Seven Deadly Sins
    • Dorothy Sayers’s essay, “The Other Six Deadly Sins”
    • Strong’s Hebrew on jealousy: https://biblehub.com/hebrew/7067.htm

    Music: Intro from Adam Saban’s “Tales from the Past”; episode segments from Cody Martin’s “Gate of Alfheim”

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    50 mins
  • The Snow Queen (revisited) with K.B. Hoyle
    Mar 8 2024

    Alicia returns to Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Snow Queen” with a second guest, K.B. (Karin) Hoyle, to talk about Karin’s recently released retelling of the tale, Son of Bitter Glass. They discuss Karin’s interpretation/adaptation of flower symbolism; ravens; eternity and snow; romance and friendship; the fae; the rich imagery of fairy tales and folklore in general; and more.

    To order a copy of Son of Bitter Glass, visit the Owl’s Nest Publishers bookstore online.

    Resources

    • K.B. Hoyle’s Son of Bitter Glass and the companion book that comes before it, Son of the Deep
    • Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Snow Queen”
    • Edith Hamilton’s Mythology

    Music: Intro from Adam Saban’s “Tales from the Past”; episode segments from Third Age’s “Tuatha Dé Danann”

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    50 mins
  • Aspittle and the Stoorworm
    Feb 23 2024

    Alicia explores the Scottish folktale, “Aspittle and the Stoorworm,” and how an artist might interpret the title character, the sea dragon, and the battle in the beast in a retelling. Topics discussed include ashes, fire, and dreams; etiological tales; the Leviathan passage in Job; and the paradox of the weak overcoming the strong.

    Resources

    • See “Aspittle and the Stoorworm” in Norah and William Montgomerie’s The Folktales of Scotland
    • “At the Burial of the Dead” service from the Book of Common Prayer: https://www.churchofengland.org/prayer-and-worship/worship-texts-and-resources/book-common-prayer/burial-dead
    • Liver as the seat of the emotions - entry in the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon: https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3516.htm
    • William MacDonald’s Believer’s Bible Commentary on Job and Isaiah 27
    • See John Piper’s sermons on Job on DesiringGod.org
    • Charles Simeon Trust Society's online course on Wisdom Literature, especially Douglas Sean O'Donnell's exposition of Job 42

    Music: Intro from Adam Saban’s “Tales of the Past,” episode segments from Cody Martin’s “Taking the North”

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    31 mins
  • The Snow Queen with K.C. Ireton
    Feb 12 2024

    Alicia Pollard and a returning guest, K.C. (Kimberlee) Ireton, discuss Kimberlee’s theological reading of Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Snow Queen.” They discuss the images of the mirror and the nature of evil; perfection in roses vs. snowflakes; isolation; resurrection; summer; and much more. 

    Resources

    • K. C. Ireton’s website: kcireton.com (Enter your email and get two free chapters of “A Yellow Wood”)
    • K. C. Ireton’s Substack: kcireton.substack.com (Grab your free copy of “Rose at Dawn,” a fairy tale retelling)
    • Tiina Nunnally’s translation of Hans Christian Andersen’s fairy tales
    • Albert Mohler’s talk on the noetic (knowledge-related) effects of sin: https://www.ligonier.org/posts/session-3-albert-mohler-2012-national-conference
    • Vigen Guorian’s Tending the Heart of Virtue: How Classic Stories Awaken a Child’s Moral Imagination
    • C.S. Lewis’s The Screwtape Letters
    • For more on the Deadly Sin of Sloth (acedia), see R.J. Snell’s Acedia and its Discontents or Kathleen Norris’s Acedia and Me

    Music: intro from Adam Saban’s “Tales from the Past”; episode segments from Adam Saban’s “The Enchanted Castle”

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    57 mins
  • The Selkie Wife
    Dec 19 2023

    Alicia explores the beautiful sadness of the Celtic folktale “The Selkie Wife”. Topics discussed include a Christian perspective on literary tragedy; the themes of exile, the stranger, and a dual nature; and ocean imagery in Scripture.

    Resources

    • Daniel Sarlo, entry for “Sea” in the Lexham Bible Dictionary, 2016
    • More resources on the Biblical image of the sea:
      • John H. Walton’s Ancient Near Eastern Thought and the Old Testament: Introducing the Conceptual World of the Hebrew Bible.
      • H.R. Balz and G. Schneider’s Exegetical dictionary of the New Testament, volume 2
      • Tsumura, David Toshio, The Earth and the Waters in Genesis 1 and 2: A Linguistic Investigation.
      • Gunkel, Hermann. Creation and Chaos in the Primeval Era and the Eschaton: A Religio-Historical Study of Genesis 1 and Revelation 12.
    • The Secret of Roan Inish (1994)
    • Song of the Sea (2014)
    • “The Music Man” musical
    • Ladies in Lavender (2004)
    • William Shakespeare’s “Romeo and Juliet,” “Othello,” and “Macbeth”
    • Sophocles’s “Oedipus Rex” and “Antigone”
    • Christopher Marlowe’s “The Tragedy of Dr. Faustus”
    • John Gardner: “There are only two plots in all of literature: 1) A person goes on a journey., 2) A stranger comes to town.”
    • Christianity and Literature 2017 conference, “Beauty in Exile,” Grove City College

    Music: Intro from Adam Saban’s “Tales from the Past”; episode segments from “West” by Shimmer

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    30 mins
  • The Golden Bird
    Dec 4 2023

    Alicia examines how a Christian artist could approach retelling “The Golden Bird” in the light of Scripture. Topics discussed include good Edens vs. false Edens, a Scriptural view of gold, and Biblical approaches to betrayal.

    Resources

    • Wilkie Collins’s A Woman in White (both the book and the 2018 miniseries)
    • Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein
    • Susan Gaskell’s North and South
    • Frances Hodgson Burnett’s The Secret Garden
    • A.A. Milne’s Winne the Pooh

    Bonus: For a more thorough discussion of the imagery of the princess in this tale, see Nicholas Kotar’s episode, “Princess Ivan and the Gray Wolf,” from his podcast, In a Certain Kingdom.

    Music: Intro from Adam Saban’s “Tales from the Past”; episode segments from Adam Saban’s “Journey to a New World”

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    35 mins
  • The Little Mermaid with K.C. Ireton
    Oct 20 2023

    Alicia and K.C. (Kimberlee) Ireton talk, or rather, gush about the Christological imagery in Hans Christian Andersen’s literary fairy tale, “The Little Mermaid,” and how an artist might retell the story. Topics discussed include the world above, the sun, the prince, the knife imagery, self-sacrifice, theological vs. literal readings, and resurrection.

    Note: If you are not familiar with Michael Ward’s book Planet Narnia, looking up a brief description before listening to this conversation may be helpful.

    Resources

    • Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Little Mermaid”
    • Michael Ward’s Planet Narnia
    • Houston Christian University's M.A. in Apologetics
    • C.S. Lewis's "The Weight of Glory"
    • Dante Alighieri’s Divine Comedy, especially Paradiso
    • Charlotte Bronte’s Jane Eyre and Anne Bronte’s The Tenant of Wildfell Hall
    • K.C. Ireton’s A Yellow Wood and Other Stories
    • K. C. Ireton’s website: https://www.kcireton.com/ (where you can sign up to receive two free chapters of A Yellow Wood)
    • Kimberlee's October Book Club - final meeting on Monday, October 23: https://mailchi.mp/3c31b7508a4a/october-book-club

    Music: Intro from Adam Saban's "Tales of the Past,"; episode segments from Cody Martin's "Edge of the Sea"

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    59 mins
  • East of the Sun, West of the Moon
    Oct 6 2023

    Alicia explores the radiant “East of the Sun, West of the Moon” and how a Christian artist could approach retelling it. Topics discussed include compass directions, handling awkward or strange episodes in fairy tales, wind imagery in Scripture, natural theology, and the imaginative atmosphere created by trolls.

    Resources

    • Lucius Apuleius’s The Golden Ass, which contains the tale “Cupid and Psyche”
    • C.S. Lewis’s Voyage of the Dawn Treader
    • C.S. Lewis’s essay “On Stories”
    • Popular Tales from the Norse, tales collected by Peter Christen Asbjørnsen and Jørgen Moe, translated by Sir George Webbe Dasent
    • “East of the Sun, West of the Moon” on Gutenberg
    • Ben Keyes’s lecture, “Caring for Creation (IV): Does the Natural World Teach Theology?“ from the Southborough L’Abri Fellowship, November 15, 2019

    Two favorite “East of the Sun, West of the Moon” retellings (not mentioned in show):

    • Jessica Day George’s Sun and Moon, Ice and Snow
    • Edith Pattou’s East

    Music: Intro from Adam Saban's "Tales from the Past,"; episode segments from Cody Martin's "Gate of Alfheim"

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    32 mins