• Helping Pastors Find More Freedom and Fulfillment - A Tribute to Dan Miller of 48 Days
    Jul 4 2024

    42% of pastors considered quitting in the past year, according to a 2022 Barna report. Are you one of them?

    In this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show, we’ll look at five common issues that leave pastors feeling unsatisfied, and explore meaningful ways to find more fulfillment.

    We'll also pay tribute to my friend and mentor Dan Miller, who has guided many pastors through this process.

    Hello my friend. Welcome to the More Than a Pastor Show. I’m Rich Avery, your host. This is the show where we help pastors, missionaries, and other ministry leaders grow your income and build financial security.

    We help you take your skills, experience, and ministry know-how and leverage them into sustainable income outside of the church, through a business or side hustle that’s right for you. So you can serve God and provide for your family, no matter what.

    Thanks for joining me today, I really appreciate the time we can spend together. And If you’re new to the show, you can learn more about me, get the show notes for today’s episode, and download some free resources to help you grow your income and build financial security over at my website: www. morethanapastor.com/66 for episode 66.

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    47 mins
  • How a Middle Class Couple Gave Away $1 Million by Age 40, and Lessons to Inspire Generosity in Your Church, With Bob Lotich
    May 2 2024


    What if God asked you to give away your age as a percentage of income, and continue to increase it 1% a year for the rest of your life...what would you do? Today we'll hear the amazing story of one couple's journey of radical generosity and lessons you can learn to inspire generosity in your church. In this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Let's get started!

    Links From Today's Show

    • Get the Blog Post/Show Notes from Today's Episode
    • Bob's Website: Seedtime.com
    • Free Access to "True Financial Freedom"
    • My Latest Post: Ben Ingebretson on How to Plant Like Jesus
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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Plant Like Jesus: Missional Ministry and Marketplace Engagement with Ben Ingebretson
    Mar 6 2024

    There is no shortage of tools, methods or strategies for church planting and growth. But what if the best strategy for sharing the message of Jesus in a post-Christian era is to actually follow the methods of Jesus?

    We’ll dive into Jesus’ methods for missional ministry and marketplace engagement with our guest Ben Ingebretson, author of Plant Like Jesus: The Church Planter's Devotional, in this episode of the More than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

    Links for Today's Show

    • Show Notes/Blog Post for This Episode
    • Ben's Website: BING Consulting
    • My Latest Post on Pastoral Identity and the Future of Ministry
    • Want to Support the Show? Buy Me a Coffee!

    Wondering How You Could Future-Proof Your Church Finances?

    Feeling the weight of financial concerns for your church? Wondering how you could ignite a culture of generosity in your congregation? Feeling like it's time to explore alternative revenue options? Know that you're not alone! We're here to support you every step of the way.

    We're offering individual and group coaching programs to help you unlock the strategies that are right for you and your church, so you can diversify your revenue streams, foster a growing culture of generosity, and navigate today's church funding challenges with confidence.

    Don't let financial challenges hinder your ministry's impact or jeopardize your personal livelihood. Take the first step towards financial resilience and sustainability today, and book your free 30-minute strategy session.

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    44 mins
  • Leading Beyond the Pulpit: Pastoral Identity and the Future of Ministry with Gary Underwood
    Feb 27 2024

    What happens to your sense of identity and calling as a pastor when everything changes? You entered the ministry years ago with a certain set of expectations of what the church is and what your role is in it, only to find them challenged by continually changing circumstances.

    We’ll talk about pastoral identity and the future of ministry, and how you can stay adaptable and on-mission in the midst of change, in this episode of the More than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

    Links for Today's Show

    • Gary Underwood's "Hoops and Cards" Podcast
    • Emerge Counseling Ministries
    • My Latest Post on the Best Way to Make Money Quickly: Provide a Service of Value
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    1 hr
  • From Crisis to Sustainability: Revitalizing Church Finances in 'The Great Dechurching' Era
    Feb 7 2024

    We are living in an era called "The Great Dechurching" of America. Millions are leaving churches each year, for various reasons which we've covered in previous episodes. Since attendance has been inextricably linked to income for most churches, it's not a stretch to see how "The Great Dechurching" of America will inevitably lead to "The Great Defunding" of the church. The math is simple: Declining attendance + declining giving + rising expenses due to inflation = an unsustainable situation for many churches. Probably even yours. And maybe you're wondering...In the midst of all this uncertainty...
    Is there anything pastors can do to revitalize your church's finances and future-proof your own personal income? I believe the answer to that question is Yes! And in this episode of The More Than a Pastor Show, we'll explore strategies to help pastors grow your income and secure your financial future - both inside and outside the church.

    Links for Today's Show

    • Blog Post for this Episode: https://www.morethanapastor.com/blog/from-crisis-to-sustainability-revitalizing-church-finances-in-the-great-dechurching-era
    • Watch this Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/d1g-Rp7tLDE
    • Free PDF: How to Know if Starting a Business is Right for You
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    29 mins
  • The Best Way to Make Money Quickly: Provide a Service that Solves a Problem for Someone Else
    Aug 8 2023

    Are you looking for the best way to make money quickly? Well you’re going to love today’s show, because I’ll share 6 reasons why providing a service that solves a problem for someone else is one of the fastest and best ways to generate income. And I’ll share practical steps you can take to get started today. That’s all coming up in this edition of the More Than a Pastor show. Let’s get started!

    Links for Today's Show

    • Blog Post/Show Notes for this Episode: The Best Way to Make Money Quickly
    • Watch this Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/YZuwVvuQmxA
    • Free PDF: How to Know if Starting a Business is Right for You
    • My Last Post: How to Find the Time to Launch Your Own Business or Side Hustle
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    26 mins
  • How to Find the Time to Launch Your Business or Side Hustle
    Jun 20 2023

    Deciding that you want or need to earn extra money as a pastor is one thing. But finding the time to do it, in addition to your regular ministry position, can be a challenge!

    So how can you find the time to launch your own business or side hustle? And is it really possible to build your dream business in just 15 hours a week, or even less? We’ll talk about that in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

    4 Keys to Success in Starting Your Own Business

    If you’re a pastor thinking about starting a business or side hustle, I believe there are 4 keys to success that will help you start strong and stay motivated in your ministry work and your entrepreneurial journey. I’ve put them all together a free PDF aptly called the Four Keys to Success in Starting Your Own Business.

    I’d love to give you a free copy, so you can avoid some of the common pitfalls that trip people up as they’re starting something on the side. Download your copy today at www.morethanapastor.com/keys.

    Links for Today's Show

    • Get the Blog Post/Show Notes for this Episode: How to Find the Time to Launch Your Own Business or Side Hustle
    • Watch this Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GChGyeVYNWw
    • Free PDF: Four Keys to Success in Starting Your Own Business
    • My Last Post: Greg Atkinson on the Secret Power of Kindness, Entrepreneurship, and the Future of the Church
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    18 mins
  • Greg Atkinson on the Secret Power of Kindness, Entrepreneurship, and the Future of the Church
    May 23 2023

    Will the 21st century pastor look more like the co-vocational tentmaker of the 1st century church than the full-time pastor of the 20th century?

    Church leadership expert Greg Atkinson says YES, and shares several reasons why pastors and churches need to embrace entrepreneurship now, in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.


    Links for Today's Show

    • Watch this Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/fHzhlTTCIJA
    • Get the Blog Post/Show Notes: https://www.morethanapastor.com/blog/greg-atkinson-on-the-secret-power-of-kindness-entrepreneurship-and-the-future-of-the-church
    • Greg Atkinson's Website: www.gregatkinson.com
    • Email Greg: greg@gregatkinson.com
    • Get Greg's New Book The Secret Power of Kindness: https://amzn.to/3OyUl3M
    • Free PDF: How to Know if Starting a Business is Right for You
    • My Last Post: Burned Out Pastors: Don't Quit, Give Yourself a Reset Instead
    • Want to Support the Show? Buy Me a Coffee

    Introducing Greg Atkinson

    I’m excited to have Greg Atkinson join us on the show today. Greg has been in ministry for nearly 30 years.

    He is an entrepreneur, bestselling author, speaker, leadership and life coach, and consultant. He has worked with churches of all stages and sizes, including some of the largest and fastest-growing churches in the country, as well as with businesses, non-profits, and organizations.

    In this conversation...

    • Greg and I talk about how he began to leverage his ministry skills into resources that served pastors and churches, and how those resources have generated multiple streams of income.
    • I also ask Greg for his thoughts on what the future of the church will look like over the next 5-10 years and beyond. His answer might surprise you.
    • He takes us into the backstory behind his new book, The Secret Power of Kindness, which is available for pre-order starting today on Amazon. And we explore why the message of Kindness is needed in the church, and in our world, now more than ever.

    And now let’s get to our conversation with Greg Atkinson!

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    50 mins