Episodes

  • Spotify vs. Songwriters (again)... and a 'likely' legal fight
    Apr 30 2024

    On this Music Business Worldwide podcast, MBW founder Tim Ingham is joined by David Israelite, the President and CEO of the National Music Publishers' Association.

    We probably don't need to ask you to guess which particular controversial topic Israelite and Ingham discuss.

    Earlier this month, Spotify announced that it was changing the way it calculates mechanical royalty payments for songwriters and publishers in the US.

    Spotify has re-categorized its Premium subscription tiers in the States as 'bundles,' enabling it to pay out a lesser mechanical royalty rate to songwriters than it would if said Premium tiers were classified as pure music services.

    Spotify believes it is entitled to re-categorize these tiers as 'bundles' due to the fact that SPOT now offers access to music plus audiobooks.

    The idea that 'bundled' services should be entitled to a lower mechanical royalty rate (vs. standard music subscription services) was enshrined in the so-called 'CRB IV' agreement/settlement between publishers and Spotify in the States, signed in 2022, and covering the years 2023-2027.

    As David Israelite explains on this podcast, the NMPA is currently considering legal action against Spotify that would seek to undo the newly-lowered 'bundle' mechanical royalty rate on the service.

    This isn't the first time that Spotify and songwriters have butted heads, of course: In 2019, the US Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) decreed that Spotify and other streaming services needed to increase the headline mechanical royalty rates they paid publishers and songwriters in the US for the period covering 2018-2022.

    That decision from the CRB (in the so-called 'CRB III' process) followed a campaign of lobbying and general legal cajoling from the NMPA, on behalf of songwriters and publishers.

    Spotify (and Amazon) subsequently appealed this ('CRB III') ruling, attempting to drive down the mechanical royalty rate they paid songwriters under US law.

    The CRB, though, stood firm – and told the streamers they must increase their rate.

    Now, with its 'bundle' reclassification under 'CRB IV', Spotify is once again attempting to push down the percentage of its revenue that it must, by law, pay to songwriters and publishers in its biggest market.

    Will Spotify ultimately get away with it? Stay tuned.

    As Israelite confirms on this podcast: "This will likely end up in a legal conflict..."

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    32 mins
  • Spotify's sneaky songwriter pay move and Blackstone vs. Concord: Talking Trends
    Apr 26 2024

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is once again joined by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment:

    (1) A battle between Concord and financial giant Blackstone to acquire Hipgnosis Songs Fund – the UK-listed bundle of music rights accumulated by Merck Mercuriadis;

    (2) Spotify's decision to re-categorize its Premium subscription tiers as 'bundles' – including audiobooks – that will materially lessen the royalty rate paid to songwriters in the US.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: Spotify, Daniel Ek, Blackstone, Merck Mercuriadis, Concord, NMPA, David Israelite, EQT, Shot Tower Capital, BMG, Citrin Cooperman, and more.

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    24 mins
  • Taylor Swift x TikTok and artist visibility on Spotify: Talking Trends
    Apr 19 2024

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is joined by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment:

    (1) Criticism of Spotify from non-superstar artists who say the platform isn't paying them a fair amount in royalties; (2) Taylor Swift unilaterally putting her recorded music back on TikTok despite her record company, Universal Music Group, continuing to refuse to license the service.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: Universal Music Group, Spotify, Daniel Ek, Sir Lucian Grainge, Stem, Milana Rabkin-Lewis, Virgin Music Group, Beggars Group, Bad Bunny, TikTok, HYBE, Scooter Braun, WeVerse, Meta.

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    24 mins
  • ‘When artists say they want to be independent, what they really mean is they want to be autonomous.'
    Apr 15 2024

    On the latest Music Business Worldwide podcast, MBW founder Tim Ingham is joined by Milana Rabkin Lewis, the founder and CEO of Los Angeles-based Stem, a distribution and services company, including financial services for independent artists.

    Stem has had a big 12 months. A major highlight arrived last summer when the company announced it had secured a $250 million credit agreement with Victory Park Capital, which has transformed the size and scope of artist advances that Stem can offer.

    For a firm that has grown used to seeing some of its biggest independent artists jump to major label deals, that $250 million raise is something of a game changer for Stem and Milana.

    Long-term listeners to MBW's podcasts may remember that this isn't Milana’s first time speaking to us. She last appeared on this podcast four years ago, just at the tip of the pandemic, and she volunteered a number of predictions about the music businesses in the years ahead, many of which have already come true, or at least partly come true.

    On this podcast, Milana and Tim discuss – with some agreement, but not always – several crucial topics in the music business right now, from TikTok versus Universal Music Group to artist-centric streaming royalties to artificial intelligence, and of course Stem, and why Milana truly believes she is building a music company fit for the future.

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    46 mins
  • BMI's songwriter payout and Universal's investment into HYBE's WeVerse: Talking Trends
    Apr 6 2024

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is joined once again by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment: (1) BMI's $100 million payout to songwriters following its acquisition by New Mountain Capital; (2) Universal Music Group's investment into HYBE's 'superfan' app, WeVerse.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: BMI, ASCAP, Google, Spotify, New Mountain Capital, BMG, Kobalt, Sony Music, Universal Music Group, Sir Lucian Grainge, HYBE, Scooter Braun, Shopify, David Bianchi, Goldman Sachs, Live Nation, Ticketmaster, Vivendi, SeeTickets, WeVerse, and more.

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    19 mins
  • Fortnite Festival and Spotify's $10k earners: Talking Trends
    Mar 29 2024

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is joined once again by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment: (1) Fortnite's 'Festival', built by music gaming experts Harmonix, in which players can purchase music tracks via in-game store; (2) A stat from Spotify showing that over half the 66,000 artists who generated $10k+ on the platform in 2023 were based in countries where English is not the first language.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: Epic Games, Harmonix, Meta, Mark Zuckerberg, Universal Music Group, Gabe Newell, Valve, Sony Music Group, Warner Music Group, Daniel Ek, Spotify, Luminate, Mavin Records, Believe, and Denis Ladegaillerie.

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    18 mins
  • J. Erving on RAYE, independent artists, and selling Human Re Sources to Sony Music
    Mar 25 2024

    Welcome to the latest Music Business Worldwide Podcast, supported by Voly Entertainment.

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    oining MBW founder, Tim Ingham, on this podcast is Julius Erving III, better known as J. Erving.

    Erving is the founder of Los Angeles-based Human Re Sources, a distribution and services company working with premium independent artists. Its successful clients since launch have included Brent Faiyiz, Pinks Sweats, Ant Clemons, and YBN Nahmir.

    Right now, though, people are focusing on Human Re Sources for one artist more than any other: RAYE.

    In February 2024, two years after that signing to Human Re Sources, RAYE swept the UK’s BRIT Awards, with a record-breaking six wins including Album Of The Year.

    There is, then, lots to ask J Erving about the success of independent artists like RAYE – and what that reflects about the wider music business.

    On this podcast, we also ask him about his previous life as an artist manager, his personal motivations, and his decision in 2020 to sell Human Re Sources to Sony Music and The Orchard.

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    26 mins
  • Skibidi Toilet, TikTok's manipulated audio, and Deezer's 26m track purge: Talking Trends
    Mar 18 2024

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends (supported by Voly Entertainment): MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is joined by Los Angeles-based music biz seer, Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two recent headlines from the world of entertainment:

    (1) Deezer's decision to remove 26 million music tracks from its library of content; and (2) The amount of 'manipulated audio' that continues to thrive on TikTok today - even when it's a Universal Music Group recording being 'manipulated'. (Also discussed Skibidi Toilet – a cultural phenomenon driven by a 'manipulated' Timbaland track.)

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: Deezer, Bob Roback, Ingrooves, Epidemic Sound, Calm, Amazon, Windham Hill Records, Universal Music Group, Endel, Oleg Stavinksy, Pex, TikTok, JP Morgan, YouTube, Rasty Turek, Neil Young, and more.

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

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    20 mins