Episodes

  • Breadth Is Back: What’s Powering Markets Beneath the Surface (With Dennis DeBusschere)
    Feb 6 2026

    In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the market’s reaction to Kevin Warsh’s nomination for Fed Chair, the potential rationale for lowering interest rates, and the drivers behind recent volatility in precious metals, while highlighting a broadening in market leadership thanks to more widespread earnings strength.

    Then, Liz Ann is joined by Dennis DeBusschere, President and chief market strategist of 22V Research. They discuss the implications of the declining dollar, the impact of AI on productivity, factor-based investing trends, monetary policy, some potential risks and opportunities in the market, and much more.

    On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting.

    If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.

    Important Disclosures

    The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab.

    This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.

    All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

    Investing involves risk, including loss of principal.

    Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.

    Technical analysis is not recommended as a sole means of investment research.

    Futures and futures options trading involves substantial risk and is not suitable for all investors. Please read the Risk Disclosure Statement for Futures and Options [LINK Risk Disclosure Statement for Futures and Options: https://www.schwab.com/Futures_RiskDisclosure] prior to trading futures products.

    Options carry a high level of risk and are not suitable for all investors. Certain requirements must be met to trade options through Schwab. Please read the Options Disclosure Document titled "Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options" before considering any option transaction.

    All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.

    Forecasts contained herein are for illustrative purposes only, may be based upon proprietary research and are developed through analysis of historical public data.

    Diversification strategies do not ensure a profit and do not protect against losses in declining markets.

    Currency trading is speculative, very volatile and not suitable for all investors.

    The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.

    Indexes are unmanaged, do not incur management fees, costs, and expenses and cannot be invested in directly. For more information on indexes, please see schwab.com/indexdefinitions

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    47 mins
  • Lessons Learned From Market Wizards (With Jack Schwager)
    Jan 30 2026
    First, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the recent Federal Reserve meeting, the reaction of the bond market, and insights from the ongoing earnings season. Then, Kathy Jones is joined by Jack Schwager, author of the bestselling book Market Wizards: Interviews with Top Traders. Jack then discusses a few of the most important lessons he has learned from interviewing elite traders: risk and money management outweigh methodology; flexibility is essential; and understanding how markets have evolved. He and Kathy also discuss the rarity of exceptional performance and the clear distinction between trading and investing.Jack Schwager’s latest book, Market Wizards: The Next Generation, will be published in June 2026.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.Important DisclosuresThe comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab.This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.Past performance is no guarantee of future results.Investing involves risk, including loss of principal.Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.Forecasts contained herein are for illustrative purposes only, may be based upon proprietary research and are developed through analysis of historical public data.Diversification strategies do not ensure a profit and do not protect against losses in declining markets.Currency trading is speculative, very volatile and not suitable for all investors.Short selling is an advanced trading strategy involving potentially unlimited risks, and must be done in a margin account. Margin trading increases your level of market risk. For more information please refer to your account agreement and the Margin Risk Disclosure Statement.Futures and futures options trading involves substantial risk and is not suitable for all investors. Please read the Risk Disclosure Statement for Futures and Options prior to trading futures products.The books Complete Guide to Futures, Market Wizards, Market Wizards: Interviews With Top Traders, and Market Wizards: The Next Generation, Market Sense and Nonsense, are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about their content.The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.Indexes are unmanaged, do not incur management fees, costs, and expenses and cannot be invested in directly. For more information on indexes, please see schwab.com/indexdefinitions(0126-4MFP) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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    46 mins
  • A Week of Whiplash: What’s Behind the Market’s Mood Swings?
    Jan 23 2026

    In this conversation, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the implications of tariffs, global economic influences, and the dynamics of the bond market. They explore evergreen strategies for navigating market volatility, emphasizing the importance of disciplined investment approaches. The discussion also touches on inflation expectations, the Federal Reserve's policies, and insights into the potential risks and opportunities for investors.

    You can read Kathy and Collin's article about the fixed income markets here: "The Bond Market in 2026: What Could Go Wrong?"

    On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting.

    If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.

    Important Disclosures

    This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.

    All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

    Investing involves risk, including loss of principal.

    Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.

    All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.

    Forecasts contained herein are for illustrative purposes only, may be based upon proprietary research and are developed through analysis of historical public data.

    Currency trading is speculative, very volatile and not suitable for all investors.

    The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.

    Diversification, asset allocation, and rebalancing strategies do not ensure a profit and do not protect against losses in declining markets.

    Rebalancing may cause investors to incur transaction costs and, when a non-retirement account is rebalanced, taxable events may be created that may affect your tax liability.

    Indexes are unmanaged, do not incur management fees, costs, and expenses and cannot be invested in directly. For more information on indexes, please see schwab.com/indexdefinitions

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    24 mins
  • The Latest Threat to Fed Independence
    Jan 16 2026

    This week, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the Federal Reserve, the bond and equity markets, the challenges facing the housing market, and the ongoing issues with inflation. They explore the implications of a criminal investigation into Fed Chair Jerome Powell, the stability of the bond market amidst political pressures, and the somewhat mixed signals from the equity market. Their discussion also highlights the affordability crisis in the housing market and the Fed's struggle to meet its inflation targets, concluding with a look ahead at upcoming economic data.

    On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting.

    If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.

    Important Disclosures

    This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.

    All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

    Investing involves risk, including loss of principal.

    Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.

    All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.

    Forecasts contained herein are for illustrative purposes only, may be based upon proprietary research and are developed through analysis of historical public data.

    Schwab does not recommend the use of technical analysis as a sole means of investment research.

    The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.

    Indexes are unmanaged, do not incur management fees, costs, and expenses and cannot be invested in directly. For more information on indexes, please see schwab.com/indexdefinitions

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    20 mins
  • The Markets React to Venezuela
    Jan 9 2026

    In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the impact of global events, particularly military actions in Venezuela and how that might affect oil prices and the US economy. They delve into the bond market's response, the influence of retail traders, and the ongoing challenges in the US labor market. The discussion also covers the complexities of Venezuela's potential debt restructuring, the current implications of tariffs on the economy, and the importance of Fed policy and upcoming economic indicators.

    On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting.

    If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.

    Important Disclosures

    This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.

    All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

    Investing involves risk, including loss of principal.

    Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.

    Currency trading is speculative, very volatile and not suitable for all investors.

    All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.

    Forecasts contained herein are for illustrative purposes only, may be based upon proprietary research and are developed through analysis of historical public data.

    The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.

    Indexes are unmanaged, do not incur management fees, costs, and expenses and cannot be invested in directly. For more information on indexes, please see schwab.com/indexdefinitions.

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    27 mins
  • Closing Thoughts on a Year of Uncertainty
    Dec 19 2025

    In this final episode of 2025, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones reflect on a year marked by uncertainty and volatility in the markets. They discuss the ping-pong nature of policy changes, the resilience of the economy, and the impact of retail traders on market sentiment. Their analysis also touches on the speculation surrounding the next Fed chair and the mixed signals from recent job data.

    On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting.

    If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.

    Important Disclosures

    This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.

    All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

    Investing involves risk, including loss of principal.

    Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.

    Currency trading is speculative, very volatile and not suitable for all investors.

    All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.

    Forecasts contained herein are for illustrative purposes only, may be based upon proprietary research and are developed through analysis of historical public data.

    The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.

    Indexes are unmanaged, do not incur management fees, costs, and expenses and cannot be invested in directly. For more information on indexes, please see schwab.com/indexdefinitions

    The book 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman is not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the book and makes no representations about its content.

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    22 mins
  • 2026 Market Outlook: U.S. Economy, Equities & Fixed Income
    Dec 12 2025
    What should investors expect from the U.S. economy next year? What will happen in the equities markets and fixed income markets? On this 2026 Market Outlook episode, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, speaks with Kevin Gordon, head of macro research. Liz Ann and Kevin discuss their perspective on the direction of the U.S. economy and stock market. She and Kevin cover the K-shaped recovery, inflation trends, the impact of AI on capital expenditure, and the implications of fiscal stimulus on federal debt.Then, Liz Ann Sonders discusses the equities outlook for 2026, focusing on consumer confidence, the impact of the presidential election cycle, and the potential for volatility. Finally, Kathy Jones is joined by Cooper Howard and Collin Martin for the outlook on municipal bonds, corporate bonds, U.S. Treasuries, and the overall fixed income markets.You can read all of Schwab's 2026 Market Outlook reports on our website:Read Cooper Howard's 2026 Municipal Bond Outlook.Read Collin Martin's 2026 Corporate Credit Outlook.Read Kathy Jones's 2026 Treasury Bonds and Fixed Income Outlook.Read Liz Ann Sonders and Kevin Gordon's 2026 Stocks & Economic Outlook.Read Michelle Gibley's 2026 International Stocks & Economy Outlook.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.Important Disclosures This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.Past performance is no guarantee of future results.Investing involves risk, including loss of principal. Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.Fixed income securities are subject to increased loss of principal during periods of rising interest rates. Fixed income investments are subject to various other risks including changes in credit quality, market valuations, liquidity, prepayments, early redemption, corporate events, tax ramifications, and other factors. Lower rated securities are subject to greater credit risk, default risk, and liquidity risk.All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.Preferred securities are a type of hybrid investment that share characteristics of both stock and bonds. They are often callable, meaning the issuing company may redeem the security at a certain price after a certain date. Such call features, and the timing of a call, may affect the security's yield. Preferred securities generally have lower credit ratings and a lower claim to assets than the issuer's individual bonds. Like bonds, prices of preferred securities tend to move inversely with interest rates, so their prices may fall during periods of rising interest rates. Investment value will fluctuate, and preferred securities, when sold before maturity, may be worth more or less than original cost. Preferred securities are subject to various other risks including changes in interest rates and credit quality, default risks, market valuations, liquidity, prepayments, early redemption, deferral risk, corporate events, tax ramifications, and other factors.Tax-exempt bonds are not necessarily a suitable investment for all persons. Information related to a security's tax-exempt status (federal and in-state) is obtained from third parties, and Schwab Center for Financial Research does not guarantee its accuracy. Tax-exempt income may be subject to the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). Capital appreciation from bond funds and discounted bonds may be subject to state or local taxes. Capital gains are not exempt from federal income tax.Treasury Inflation Protected Securities (TIPS) are inflation-linked ...
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  • Implications of a New Fed Chair Nominee
    Dec 5 2025

    This week Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the implications of a possible announcement of the next Federal Reserve chair nominee and market reactions to potential interest rate cuts. They also look at the dynamics of global central banks and explore the current state of the stock market, highlighting trends and dispersion among stocks. The discussion also covers upcoming economic data and the significance of next week’s Fed meeting, emphasizing the complexities of managing interest rates in a changing economic landscape.

    On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting.

    If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.

    Important Disclosures

    This material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. The investment strategies mentioned are not suitable for everyone. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.

    All expressions of opinion are subject to change without notice in reaction to shifting market, economic or political conditions. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

    Investing involves risk, including loss of principal.

    Performance may be affected by risks associated with non-diversification, including investments in specific countries or sectors. Additional risks may also include, but are not limited to, investments in foreign securities, especially emerging markets, real estate investment trusts (REITs), fixed income, municipal securities including state specific municipal securities, small capitalization securities and commodities. Each individual investor should consider these risks carefully before investing in a particular security or strategy.

    All names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.

    Diversification and rebalancing strategies do not ensure a profit and do not protect against losses in declining markets.

    Indexes are unmanaged, do not incur management fees, costs, and expenses and cannot be invested in directly.

    Forecasts contained herein are for illustrative purposes only, may be based upon proprietary research and are developed through analysis of historical public data.

    The policy analysis provided by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party.

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    24 mins