Soosan Lolavar is a British-Iranian composer, researcher, and lecturer living in London. Having studied Iranian classical music, her music draws on ideas from both Western and Iranian traditions with a focus on the diaspora experience. Her album Girl with the London chamber orchestra Ruthless Jabiru was released in March 2024, and her book Embodied Research Through Music Composition and Evocative Life-Writing: Disrupting Diaspora was published in April 2024. Lolavar’s book, the subject of this interview, examines how attending to the lived experience of diaspora can impact our understanding of the term through the lens of her practice as a composer.

Music: Tradition-Hybrid-Survival by Soosan Lolavar, performed by Ruthless Jabiru, Kelly Lovelady, conductor, Roxanna Albayati, cello (nonclassical); I Am the Spring, You Are the Earth by Soosan Lolavar, performed by Ruthless Jabiru, Kelly Lovelady, conductor, Faraz Eshghi Sahraei, santoor (nonclassical)

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The Other Minds Podcast is hosted and edited by Joseph Bohigian. Outro music is “Kings: Atahualpa” by Brian Baumbusch (Other Minds Records).

Jennie Gottschalk is a composer and author based in Boston. She holds a doctorate from Northwestern University and her dissertation and current work explores connections between American pragmatist thought and experimental music. Gottschalk is also the author of the book Experimental Music Since 1970, published in 2016. In the interview, we discuss the challenges of defining experimental music, the influence of indeterminacy, and recent developments in the field.

Music: New Work by Pauline Oliveros, performed by The Circle Trio: Pauline Oliveros, accordion; India Cooke, violin; Karolyn van Putten, voice (Other Minds Festival 8); Triptych by Éliane Radigue, performed by Éliane Radigue (Other Minds Archives); Raga 18 by John Cage, performed by Amelia Cuni, dhrupad vocals; Werner Durand, drones/electronics; Raymond Kacynski and Federico Sanesi, percussion (Other Minds Records); Transparent City by Michael Pisaro, performed by Michael Pisaro (The Nature of Music)

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The Other Minds Podcast is hosted and edited by Joseph Bohigian. Intro/outro music is “Kings: Atahualpa” by Brian Baumbusch (Other Minds Records).

Morton Subotnick is an American composer of electronic music, best known for his 1967 composition Silver Apples of the Moon, the first electronic work commissioned by a record company, Nonesuch. He has worked extensively with interactive electronics and multi-media, co-founding the San Francisco Tape Music Center with Ramón Sender, and is an innovator in works involving instruments and other media, including interactive computer music systems. On the podcast, we talk about his youth growing up in Los Angeles, his co-founding of the San Francisco Tape Music Center, shifting from the clarinet to the electronic music studio to live electronic performance, and his upcoming performance of As I Live & Breathe at Other Minds 27 with video artist Lillevan.

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The Other Minds Podcast is hosted and edited by Joseph Bohigian. Intro/outro music is “Kings: Atahualpa” by Brian Baumbusch (Other Minds Records).