This is a profound conversation with Paul Glover, an ex-lawyer and leadership legacy coach, who shares his remarkable journey from incarceration, after being indicted by a federal grand jury on 33 counts of corruption, to redemption. Paul’s time in prison was a period of intense self-reflection and transformation, driven by a commitment to his family and a desire to become a better person. Emerging from the addictive “dark and grubby and greedy and vile” underworld Paul was confronted with dismantling his own ego in the pursuit of forgiveness. We delve into the importance of ethics, the power of humility and simple gratitude, and the role of support systems in personal growth. Paul’s candid leadership insights emphasise the need for self-reflection, accountability, and ethical decision-making frameworks and offers invaluable lessons for us all. Shownotes See more at http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-journey-paul-glover Key Moments Planet Human: A quick look at the fascinating concept of digital twins and AI technology as Reid Hoffman interviews ‘himself’! This is a theme that resonates deeply with my novels - imagine the possibilities and challenges as we interact with digital replicas of ourselves! Planet Zoë: I'm bursting with excitement to share that my upcoming novel, Olympus Rising is nearing completion. If you're seeking a gripping tale that intertwines with leadership and the future, keep your eyes peeled for its release. In the meantime catch up with The Olympus Project, Olympus Bound and grab the prequel novella Terra Blanca for free. Paul Glover's journey and challenges (00:05:01) Paul discusses his journey from being a trial attorney to getting involved in criminal activities and the impact on his life. Life in prison and aftermath (00:07:20) Paul shares the devastating impact of his imprisonment on his family and the emotional turmoil he faced. Self-reflection and transformation (00:09:16) Commitment to change, self-reflection, and the support Paul received from his wife during his transformation. Taming the ego and ethics (00:13:34) The role of ego in unethical behaviour and the importance of self-reflection. Insights on ethics and the law (00:16:09) Paul shares his perspective on ethics and the law, emphasising the importance of making black and white ethical decisions. Breaking free of ego and echo chamber (00:21:53) Zoe and Paul discuss breaking down the ego conversation justifying poor behaviour and breaking free from the echo chamber. Self-Reflection and Responsibility (00:22:29) Paul discusses the importance of creating one's self-image and the necessity of self-reflection for personal growth and transformation. Support and Environment (00:25:00) The impact of a supportive environment on individuals post-incarceration and the difficult choice of seeking and accepting support. Continuous Atonement and Gratitude (00:27:04) Paul emphasises the ongoing commitment to atonement and the practice of daily gratitude as part of his personal growth and transformation. Challenges in Reintegration (00:29:20) The challenges of finding employment post-release and the subsequent transition to coaching within distribution and manufacturing. Corporate Culture and Leadership (00:33:21) Insights on the shift in corporate culture post-pandemic and the need for a human-centric approach to leadership and team sustainability. Power and Toxic Leadership (00:36:01) Reflections on the destructive nature of power, the importance of humility in leaders, and the pressures that lead to toxic behaviour. Future Technology and Leadership (00:38:26) Paul's fascination with artificial intelligence and the anticipated shift in leadership roles from managerial to coaching and mentoring. The impact of environment and support (00:45:05) Discussion on the influence of environment and support on individuals' ability to break free from negative consequences and the need for new environments and support systems. The relationship between power and humility (00:45:05) Exploration of the relationship between power and humility, and the importance of humility, curiosity, and compassion in leadership. The role of the fool in leadership (00:46:21) The significance of having someone who can provide honest feedback and speak truth to power in leadership, drawing from the mediaeval concept of the fool. Ethical decision-making framework (00:46:21) Explanation of the "meaning, magnitude, and measure" framework for making ethical decisions, with a focus on consequences, universal principles, and values.
