Should we view proptech as how humans transform physical space into something much more valuable and relevant than just the physical space? Why should building owners consider looking at proptech investment across their whole tech stack, rather than focusing only on individual, siloed solutions? How did Josephine use linguistics as a launching point to get into technology localization? What inspired Josephine to work in a startup after starting her career at Google? What was attractive about the built environment compared to other industries Josephine had worked in? How did Josephine's work around sustainability lead her to join the Carbon13 incubator program? Why has accurate, portfolio-wide building energy modeling become a critical need for asset owners? How has MapMortar automated the labor-intensive building energy modeling process? Why is MapMortar looking to engage with banks and utility providers?

Josephine Bromley - COO & co-founder of MapMortar, joins Proptech Espresso to answer these questions and discuss how her Google onbcaoarding experience instilled a deep sense of personal ownership that she continues to lean on many companies.

What was Ryan's first academic love in high school? What opportunity did Ryan uncover by responding to a Craigslist advertisement? Why did Ryan decide to return to his original path after an enjoyable stint in consulting? What attribute of MIT culture appealed to Ryan and convinced him to apply to Sloan for an MBA? What part-time job did Ryan land at MIT that gave him special insight into the campus's eccentricities? How did Ryan end up founding a screen writing software business? How did Ryan pivot this failed idea into a lucrative marketplace business? What hard lesson about unit economics did Ryan learn during this period? How did Ryan connect the dots between data, B2B, and climate policy to start a new tech business? What did Ryan admire about Stripe that he applied to the permit data space with Shovels? Why is collecting and aggregating local building permit data so challenging? What insights has Shovels uncovered around permit activity and different types of climate disasters? What is the permit cloud that Shovel's is uncovering that indicates early signal about a larger infrastructure project? How is Shovels providing insight into available trade resources for intensive projects such as data centers?

Ryan Buckley - CEO and co-founder of Shovels, joins Proptech Espresso to answer these questions and discuss how his early childhood interest in roller hockey exposed him to the parking lots of seminal internet titans like Netscape and Silicon Graphics.

How has proptech evolved over time from solutions about the business of real estate to the automation and digitization of the physical buildings themselves? What lessons did Etrit take away from the hardships of his family re-establishing their lives in the US? How did entrepreneurship in Kosovo differ from what he experienced after moving to Michigan and integrating with the Albanian community? What learnings about the value of the product you are selling got instilled in Etrit when he was young? What lessons did Etrit take away from his experience in door to door selling laundry services? How did working at Chase during college open Etrit's eyes to how to successfully navigate the professional environment? What insights did Etrit take away from listening to an employee interaction with Jamie Diamond? Why is Etrit always trying to learn faster to do the right thing? Where did the initial interest in real estate originate? Why is customer service such a differentiation for KODE? What does having the GSA as a KODE customer mean to Etrit?

Etrit Demaj - co-founder of KODE Labs, joins Proptech Espresso to answer these questions and discuss immigrating to the US and the debt of gratitude he has for the opportunities presented to him because of this.