Ukrainian Punk band Cardinal Birds are our guests for this special episode.

Dee, Max and Vlad are all still in Ukraine and living with the reality of war; because of the Russian invasion, we couldn't conduct a 'normal' interview because of the fear of rocked attacks so this interview will sound a little different.

Together with the charitable organization "Rise with a Purpose, Inc", the band has created T-shirts that are being sold on Amazon. All proceeds from these T-shirts will be donated directly to charities in Ukraine. You can pick up a Tshirt via this link.

You can buy digital music from the band via their Bandcamp page or this link

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Liam speaks to The Damned bassist Paul Gray. 

They talk about being on the road with the Ramons. Playing Bass on  Andrew Ridley formally of WHAM rock album, finding peace in the garden and of course, we talk about joining The Damned, leaving and re-joining again.

Paul opens up about living with Tinnitus and how putting down his bass because of hearing damage took him to a very dark period of his life.

Thank you to Punk Ethics for sponsoring this episode; you can go pick up tickets for the #PunksAgainstSweatshops show, pick up tickets via this link  or head to www.the100club.co.uk/events/punks-against-sweatshop-live/

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As always, thank you to Fidlar for not suing us and letting us use Cheap Beer as the podcast's opening track.

• Life Goes On - The Damned
• Do Anything You Wanna Do - Eddie & The Hot Rods
• Neat Neat Neat - The Damned
• Wait For The Blackout - The Damned
• Red Dress - Andrew Ridgeley
• Smash It Up - The Damned

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Liam speaks to Punk Rock Saves Lives co-founder Rob Rushing in this episode.

Punk Rock Saves Lives is a non for profit charity that works within the punk rock community and focuses on Health and Wellness (with an emphasis on mental health), human rights, and equality. You can find out more about their work via this link.

Take Aim Fire for sponsoring this podcast episode. Show them some love by checking out their work via this link.

Get 10% off your 2000Trees Festival ticket using the promo code PUNKSINPUBS. Check out this year link up via this link.

Follow the podcast @punksinpubs across all social media.

As always, thank you to Fidlar for not suing us and letting us use Cheap Beer as the podcast's opening track.

• Originators (Bad Cop, Bad Cop) 
• Girls On Film (Duran Duran) 
• This Is The First Night (Anti Flag)
• London Calling (The Clash) 
• Young Till I Die (7 Seconds) 
• The Marvelous Slut (Every Time I Die) 

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