In this final episode of the economic and systems thinking mini-series on the refi podcast, Tony Lai, co-steward of Mother Tree Labs and fellow at Stanford's Codex, joins Maya and Tereza to explore the intersection of computational law, commons governance, and ecological transition. Tony offers insights into creating mindful economies and shares personal tips for regeneration. The conversation covers institutional versus extitutional approaches to governance, the role of computational law in regenerative systems, and the importance of community-driven initiatives. Tony shares experiences from New Zealand's legal personhood for nature and discusses the development of Mother Tree Labs in nurturing regenerative communities. Key themes include the role of mythmaking, storytelling, and community in reshaping legal frameworks and economic systems. Tony emphasizes the importance of attunement practices for personal and relational growth, offering a unique blend of law, music, and community engagement to foster a regenerative future. 👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast 👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist 👉 Tony's LinkedIn profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonyklai/ 👉 Tony's X: https://x.com/lai 👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova 👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel 00:00 Introduction to the ReFi Podcast 01:22 Welcoming Tony Lai 04:34 Tony's Background and Journey 09:09 The Role of Law in Regenerative Systems 15:29 Academia and Computational Law 22:42 Mother Tree Labs and Mythology 28:23 Regenerative Finance Explained 33:02 Surprising Insights from New Zealand 38:18 Extitutional Theory and Community Governance 43:19 Personal and Relational Regeneration 46:49 Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion

In this episode, we delve into a conversation with Glen Weyl, a political economist, researcher at Microsoft Research, and founder of Radical Exchange. Glen discusses his work on innovative economic models and digital democracy, emphasizing the need to convert social media anger into productive policy proposals. The dialogue explores the evolution of democracy and technology, illustrated by examples from Taiwan's GovZero and the system of Polis for reducing polarization. Glen also shares insights from his books, Radical Markets and Plurality, and reflects on the intersections of technology, democracy, and spirituality. Addressing the challenges in the U.S. political climate, Glen outlines potential solutions for increasing civic engagement and reducing polarization, and offers his perspective on the role of blockchain and other technologies in fostering sustainable communities.

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00:00 Introduction to Social Media and Anger

00:39 Guest Introduction: Glen Weyl

01:24 Key Takeaways and Episode Overview

01:51 Diving into Glen's Work and Views

02:16 Challenges in Democracy and Technology

06:27 ExploringTaiwan's Digital Democracy

09:04 Polis and Depolarization Mechanisms

15:54 Conflict and Polarization in Society

17:27 Local Strategies for Rebuilding Connection

18:42 Anonymity and Identity in Digital Spaces

20:46 Environmental Coordination and Blockchain

24:14 Refi Community and Blockchain Critique

29:32 Quadratic Voting and Its Applications

33:46 Open Source Book and Plurality

36:27 Future Projects and Personal Insights

37:33 Religion, Technology, and Personal Growth

41:19 Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion

In this episode, John Fullerton, an unconventional economist and key proponent of regenerative economics, discusses the polycrisis resulting from traditional economic systems and the need for a paradigm shift towards regeneration. Fullerton shares insights from his transition from Wall Street banker to founding the Capital Institute and emphasizes how holistic approaches in economics and finance can foster sustainable business practices. He elucidates the differences between impact investing, regenerative investing, and discusses the potential role of cryptocurrencies and blockchain in creating a resilient economy. The conversation also delves into how organizations can adopt regenerative principles and the importance of maintaining a holistic view. This episode offers profound insights for anyone interested in advancing regenerative finance principles and fostering a sustainable global economy.

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00:00 Introduction to Regenerative Economics

00:30 Meet John Fullerton: From Wall Street to Regenerative Economics

02:13 The Flaws in Traditional Economic Systems

02:30 John's Journey: From JP Morgan to the Capital Institute

04:22 The Realization of Systemic Issues

06:15 Understanding Regeneration: Beyond Sustainability

15:13 The Role of Finance in Regeneration

22:05 Corporate Challenges in Adopting Regenerative Economics

29:59 Understanding Health Indicators

31:03 The Concept of Regeneration

31:37 Economic System Transformation

32:43 Living Systems and Business Models

34:38 The Role of Technology in Regeneration

37:59 Complementary Currencies and Resilience

44:20 The Future of Finance

50:53 Rapid Fire Questions