Episodes

  • Dave & Sarah: Are We In A Simulation?
    Oct 3 2023

    Dave Testa & Sarah Sekoa discuss (BS about) the unknowability of the fundamental nature of reality. Recorded at Dave Testa's home recording studio on April 16, 2023, at the end of a 10 hour marathon of conversation.

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    25 mins
  • Part 2: Let's Catch Our Breath - Addiction Recovery and Mental Health with Dave Testa
    Oct 3 2023

    Part 2: Dave & Sarah discuss experiences of addiction, mental illness, recovery, and learning how to care for & ground ourselves and deal with the inevitable pains of life in sustainable ways.

    Recorded at Dave Testa's home recording studio in Seattle, WA on April 16th, 2023.

    Intro/Outro song: "Bug Bear" by Climber, used with permission. Listen to Climber music on Spotify: shorturl.at/ouxS2



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    1 hr
  • Part 1: Let's Catch Our Breath - Addiction Recovery & Mental Health with Dave Testa
    Jun 22 2023

    Dave & Sarah discuss experiences of addiction, mental illness, recovery, and learning how to care for & ground ourselves and deal with the inevitable pains of life in sustainable ways.

    Recorded at Dave Testa's home recording studio in Seattle, WA on April 16th, 2023.

    Intro/Outro song: "River" by David Testa, used with permission. Single to be released soon. Listen to more music by David Testa at www.testamusic.com

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    1 hr
  • Chuck Swindoll - Son of a Preacher, Author of Elucidating Christianity
    Apr 24 2023

    Chuck and Sarah discuss Chuck's book: Elucidating Christianity, A Heretic's Dissent: Triangulating Dysfunctional Religion (get the Kindle book on Amazon here: https://shorturl.at/knrA7, or listen to the audio version read by Chuck on his YouTube channel at the link below), and we share about our experiences of unraveling our Christian beliefs and what it's like on the other side of leaving the religion. Chuck grew up in a highly influential Christian family and ministry, and leaving his rolls at the church wasn't easy. He shares about what that was like and about his relationship with his beloved father, with whom he shares the same name, and who is a world renowned Christian pastor, teacher, and author.

    Chuck's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@chuckswindoll7792

    Audio Version of Elucidating Christianity: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4Qn_RpyTvVxvExk8fE2s9kSo15gH6ka

    Intro/outro song: "Stop That Holy Dance" by Climber. Used with permission. 
    Listen to Climber music on Spotify: shorturl.at/ouxS2

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    2 hrs and 3 mins
  • Leaving Christianity - David Testa's Experience
    Mar 29 2023

    A conversation with former Christian worship band member, David Testa, as he shares insights about his journey into and out of Christianity. The conversation touches on problems with Christian concepts of hell and salvation, connections between Christianity and codependency, childhood trauma, narcissism, addiction, etc., surviving existential+identity crises, and current spiritual beliefs. We opened more cans of worms than we could fully digest, so keep an eye out for future episodes where we will be getting together again to dive deeper into some of these topics.

    Recorded at David Testa's home recording studio in Seattle, WA, on March 19, 2023.

    Intro/Outro song: "River" by David Testa, used with permission. Single to be released soon. Listen to more music by David Testa at www.testamusic.com

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    1 hr and 33 mins
  • Art Life & The Evolution of Self - w/filmmaker Antero Alli
    Mar 21 2023

    A conversation with filmmaker, theater producer, author, astrologer, and musician, Antero Alli, on wisdom from his life as an artist. We discuss ideas around self-delusion, ego, shadow work, and the inner child, and how to live the artist's life by relinquishing our attachments to our egos, and vulnerably expressing from our deeply subjective experiences, in hopes that our creative works will cross over into universal experience and land with positive impact in the lives of those who relate and resonate.

    Alli's film "Out of the Woods" will be screened at the Clinton Street Theater in Southeast Portland this Sunday, March 26th, 1pm matinee, as a benefit for the theater. Tickets: https://cstpdx.com/event/out-of-the-woods/

    Intro/outro song: "I Don't Exist" by Climber, used with permission. Listen to Climber music on Spotify: shorturl.at/ouxS2


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    55 mins
  • Leaving Christianity - Marcus Lawrence's Experience - Live Zoom Recording
    Mar 15 2023

    Marcus Lawrence, a former Christian worship leader, shares his story of going from being a full-blown Christian who worked for a church and for Christian organizations, to becoming an optimistic nihilist who still wants to believe there is something out there that cares - because music and love. We talk about the Enneagram, nihilism, agnosticism, mysticism, and love that's too big for religion's boxes, and how if there is an afterlife to believe in, everybody's in, or else no thank you.

    Intro/outro song:
    "Foxes" by Climber, used with permission.
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    1 hr and 45 mins
  • Leaving Christianity - Thomas Schnaars' Experience, recorded live at Edgefield
    Feb 21 2023

    (Recorded live at Edgefield McMenamins) Sarah interviews Thomas Schnaars about his experience of converting to Christianity in his early twenties, becoming a church leader and teacher, and then leaving the religion in his late thirties and stepping into a more expansive spiritual cosmology.

    Contact Thomas for personalized in depth astrology readings: ts84@live.de

    This episode explores:

    - issues with Christian doctrines of hell, sin, separation from God, etc., as well as with some of the abuse inherent in Christian culture and values. 

    - the wisdom in pulling on threads of doubt and trusting in a higher power (if there is one) to help us follow truth (if there is truth), even and especially when it leads us away from the versions of reality with which we've been indoctrinated by religion.

    - celebrating the good things about experiences in Christianity and Christian community, and taking the good things along when we leave.

    - experiential love, felt Oneness, and felt eternal safety outside of religious doctrines+conditions.

    - the importance of self-trust and intuitive knowing.

    - enjoying the awe and wonder in the mystery of existing.

    - et cetera...


    Intro/outro song:

    "The Simians Speak" by Climber, used with permission.

    Listen to Climber music on Spotify: shorturl.at/ouxS2



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    1 hr and 17 mins