"I always hesitate a bit when organizations are like, happiness, happiness, happiness… because our pitfalls will never go away… I will always have those pitfalls. But if I can become conscious and intentional, then I can start to own my pitfalls instead of my pitfalls owning me. And I can start to take responsibility for them… We can talk about it together and no one ever punishes someone for being in their pitfall… We might lovingly make someone aware of it, give them feedback or encourage them… In one of our value statements we say, we see the five-year-old you and we love them, and we also lovingly support you to be bigger than that."

S02E18 of the Rethink Culture podcast shines the spotlight on Lisa Gill. Lisa is an organizational and self-management coach and trainer with Tuff Leadership Training. Included in the Thinkers 50 Radar 2020, Lisa has made significant contributions to the field. She hosts the Leadermorphosis podcast, where she has interviewed nearly a hundred pioneers in the future of work.

Lisa co-authored "Moose Heads on the Table," a book featuring stories about self-managing organizations from Sweden. With a rich international background, having lived in Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore as a child, she brings a unique and diverse perspective to her purpose of helping leaders transform.

The podcast is produced by Rethink Culture (rethinkculture.co). Our Culture Health Check helps you turn your culture into a competitive advantage, with data. Visit rethinkculture.co to see how you can create a healthier culture at your company.

Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

Listen to this episode to discover:
- How self-managing cultures attract people who enjoy responsibility and are capable of self-management.

- Why some organizations or individuals are not suited for self-management.

- Why founders and CEOs should recognize the different personal development rates of those they lead.

- The impact cultural transformations have on employee retention.

- The importance of creating compassionate spaces to process changes and difficulties.

- How to create safe spaces for sharing, owning, and taking responsibility for pitfalls.

- Why respecting your work capacity and wellbeing prevents burnout.

- The role of exposure to diverse leadership styles in personal development.

Further resources:

- Lisa Gill on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-gill-23815a4/

- Leadermorphosis podcast: https://leadermorphosis.co/

- Moose Heads on the Table, by Karin Tenelius and Lisa Gill: https://mooseheadsonthetable.com/

- Reinventing Organizations: A Guide to Creating Organizations Inspired by the Next Stage in Human Consciousness, by Frederic Laloux: https://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Organizations-Frederic-Laloux/dp/2960133501

- Hospicing Modernity: Facing Humanity's Wrongs and the Implications for Social Activism, by Vanessa Machado de Oliveira: https://www.amazon.com/Hospicing-Modernity-Humanitys-Implications-Activism/dp/1623176247

- The Advantage: Why Organizational Health Trumps Everything Else In Business, by Patrick M. Lencioni: https://www.amazon.com/Advantage-Organizational-Health-Everything-Business/dp/0470941529

- Maverick: The Success Story Behind the World's Most Unusual Workplace, by Ricardo Semler: https://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Success-Behind-Unusual-Workplace/dp/0446670553