The series launches with Eilidh in conversation with fellow Olympic Gold Medalist, the amazing Jonny Brownlee! He's one of the most decorated triathletes in the world but Jonny still lives in the shadow of his older brother, Alistair.  They work together as a team - two brothers who live together, train together and wear the same national vest - but compete as rivals. There's a lot we can learn from this weird and warming dynamic. Jonny's refreshing take on this sibling rivalry should inspire anyone who finds themselves with underdog-syndrome or any sort of inferiority complex.  Make no mistake, with multiple World titles and multiple Olympic medals, Jonny's a superstar of this extraordinary sport. The close-to-home rivalry has spurred him to be the best he can possibly be and the story isn't over yet.   Out of the Shadows with Eilidh Mcintyre is in association with QuoteSearch and is produced by NinetyFour19.  Email us at outofthepod@outlook.com and follow on instagram @outofthepod. 

Full Time Codes: 

01:08 Eilidh Explains why the podcast is called Out Of The Shadows 

02:30 Eilidh introduces Jonny, his accolades and his shadow 

3:15 Eilidh and Jonny dive right in and discuss how much pressure there is as Alistair's little bro! 

4:35 Eilidh and Jonny delve into London 2012 - dramatic stuff! 5:27 Jonny discusses how he bounced back from his first ever time penalty. At his first Olympics. 

08:55 Eilidh’s reflection of how similar Jonny’s relationship with Alistair sounds to hers with team mate Hannah Mills 

09:25 The brothers who live together and train together: The pair discuss what it was like in the build to 2012 and how Jonny helped Alistairr recover from injury. 

12:02 Jonny talks about being the younger brother and how he might have been a little too innocent. 

14:30 Eilidh and Jonny discuss what it's like to give feedback to someone who feels above their station. 

16:20 Jonny loves routine and opens up about how lockdown challenged him 

17:15 The story of how the Brownlee brothers got into triathlon 

18:40 There was a time when Jonny wasn’t sure if he wanted to continue with triathlon 

19:39 Alistairr created a tailor-made triathlon program for Jonny to join in with 

21:05 Jonny discusses what motivates him 

22:50 Eilidh asks whether Jonny ever wanted to be different to Alister.  Did he ever want to rebel? 

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24:00 Eilidh And Jonny discuss confidence. Did Jonny’s relationship with Alistair always build his confidence of did it sometimes go the other way? 

25:48 Jonny opens up about how some of his best races have been when Alistair wasn’t present 

27:31 Jonny admits one of the things he’s most proud of is that he’s never been jealous of Alistair. 

28:21 Jonny recounts the famous incident in Mexico where he suffers from heat exhaustion and is shoved over the finish line by Alistair 

32:04 Does it work both ways? Would Jonny do the same?! 

33:23 Let’s talk about Tokyo; what was it like being without an injured Alistair? 

35:22 Eilidh asked Jonny if he felt empowered by Alister's absence from the games 36:55 Winning gold in the mixed relay; a big performance just days after missing a medal in the individual. 

37:43 How did Jonny manage to bounce back? 

40:20 Jonny sounds excited about trying to get to Paris 2024 

This interview was recorded before Birmingham 2022.  We hope this ambition hasn't changed, despite his recent injury which ruled him out of the Commonwealth Games.  With huge thanks to Jonny Brownlee for his time.  Produced by NinetyFour19 Ltd.