In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi sit down with Roni Rohr and Jessi Ruby, both PreK-8 visual art educators in New Mexico (Roni) and Colorado (Jessi). Roni and Jessi share what brought them to teaching, the development of their working partnership, and how their current pedagogical venture, [re]Design(ing) Art Education, came about. Among the topics discussed are design-thinking and STEAM, the importance of community and kindness, and why (when considering art education pedagogy) it is critical NOT to reinvent the wheel, but redesign it.

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Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:

• [re]Design(ing) Art Education - https://www.redesigningarted.com/

• Smoke and Mirrors (Nan Hathaway) - Smoke and Mirrors

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org