In our final episode of Season 9, we’re speaking with Jill Gunter, Chief Strategy Officer at Espresso Systems, the coordination layer that unites chains, rollups, and applications.

We start off with a hot topic nowadays which is whether we should be focusing more on building infrastructure or apps. You might assume you know where Jill stands on this topic as someone who’s working on a middleware solution, but there’s actually a lot more to the story from her perspective.

Jill has lots of excellent analogies to help us better understand technical concepts like shared sequencers and rollups, and she debunks some common misconceptions people have about Espresso ahead of their mainnet launch this quarter.

This is an excellent episode for the nontechnical person to listen to to better understand how various components of blockchains work, as well as for the more technical person to have some of their uncertainties about shared sequencers and the work Espresso is doing around that cleared up.

Jill was nominated for Rehash by Meg Lister and voted onto the podcast by Richie Bonilla, Irina Marinescu, Meg Lister, and Diana Chen.

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0:00 Intro

3:47 Infra vs apps

14:40 What is Espresso and what are shared sequencers? ELI5

35:13 Future of Layer 2 blockchains

39:01 Ethereum vs Solana

48:47 Future of zk rollups

50:07 Being a new mom in crypto

56:31 Can You Not

58:44 Follow Jill

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