My guest and your advisor today is medical anthropologist and investigative journalist, Scott Carney. It doesn't take a long conversation with him to see that he loves both. And the NYT Best Seller status of his book "What Doesn't Kill Us," proves he's good at it. The book is a first hand examination of the methods of one Wim Hof, a Dutch guru of extreme cold exposures and accessing powers of adaption that lie within all of us but have gone largely dormant with the modern-day comforts we clever humans have secured for ourselves. But the technique is not without risk. Scott has just revealed for the first time some newly emerging evidence that the practice can go tragically wrong. What I like about Scott is he breaks down this concept of hormesis in human physiology with the clarity of a skilled journalist and the spell of a good storyteller. Things we could use a lot more of in science education. I think you'll find his humor and energy are infectious. Scott is definitely more the Indiana Jones anthropologist rather than the academic. He's going to love me for that! Never one to study his subject by passive observation, his style is complete immersion and full participation , which makes for really interesting material. So let's get to it! Find Scott on Youtube @sgcarney Timestamps: 00:00:00-00:01:37 Scott Carney Intro 00:01:38-00:02:56 Scott’s Background in Medical Anthropology 00:02:57-00:06:10 Intro to What Does’t Kill Us 00:06:11-00:10:31 What is hormesis? 00:10:32-00:13:18 The Wim Hof Method 00:13:19-00:16:34 Scott begins investigating Wim How 00:16:35-00:18:39 Adapting for survival 00:18:40-00:25:29 Our quest for comfort makes us uncomfortable everywhere 00:25:30-00:30:17 Turning off immune system using Wim Hof method 00:30:18-00:34:56 Placing a wedge between stimulus and response 00:34:57-00:36:04 The wedge and pain, anxiety, depression, auto immune disease 00:36:05-00:42:01 Wim, his twin, and brown fat 00:42:02-00:43:39 The theory of reductionism 00:43:40-00:53:54 Scott hikes Mt Kilimanjaro in -30 degree temperatures shirtless, using Wim Hof breathing technique 00:53:55-00:56:20 I’m not on the mountain, I am the mountain mindset 00:56:21-01:00:54 A mutiny on the mountain 01:00:55-01:04:45 Problem with Wim Hof’s teachings | Never hyperventilate in water 01:04:46-01:08:44 Wim nearly drowns attempting to swim under ice 01:08:45-01:15:15 Cases of people dying from shallow water blackout 01:15:16-01:17:32 What can the average person take from cold exposure? 01:17:33-01:20:18 The Wedge | A look at sensory and response to sensory 01:20:19-01:22:34 How do I know that you feel what I feel? 01:22:35-01:25:44 We’re isolating ourselves from both the physical and social world 01:25:45-01:28:51 If you want to be comfortable in life you must be uncomfortable at times 01:28:52-01:35:58 Scott’s current and future projects | Scott’s Thoughts Youtube channel, book on napping