Ben is joined by the PodFather himself, Daniel Shoptaw while Nate is off galavanting in Bali. Ben and Daniel try to find something positive to talk about in the face of the Cardinals recent struggles and place in the standings. They discuss the recent roster churn as the Cardinals send Walker back to AAA and kick Cardinals Legend Brandon Crawford to the curb. We explore the idea of the Cardinals FO and player staff being gutted, like a fish and if the team is eliminated from contention will Oli be eliminated from his job? All this and a lot more!

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Nate & Ben discuss the thrilling conclusion of the summer race, Matt Carpenter's "injury" and his future, the return of Jordan Walker and whether that's a good idea or not, the return of ROB and the loss of Robertson, Goldy and Arenado starting to heat up?, how the Cardinals return to relevancy, winning the central, and much much more!

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Nate & Ben discuss their upcoming race, lake meat, shorts, more about shorts, just a lot of shorts talk, Siani's injury and the impact, the return of VS2, Lance Lynn and the future of the rotation, Fedde, Armstrong, Matz(?), ROB (Riley O'Brien), and much, much, more!