Episodios

  • Dealing with social obligations while chronically ill: Holiday Edition!
    Nov 5 2025

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss the unique challenges faced by individuals with chronic illnesses during the holiday season. They delve into the importance of setting boundaries, managing expectations, and prioritizing health to make social events more manageable. The discussion includes practical tips for communicating with family and friends, handling dietary and alcohol restrictions, and developing self-care strategies before and after social gatherings. They also highlight the value of therapy and supportive relationships in navigating this difficult time. Tune in for a compassionate and informative session aimed at making your holidays more enjoyable and stress-free.

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 00:50 Therapy to help support you during the season 02:18 Challenges of an invisible illness during the holidays 04:16 Why the holidays and chronic illness are a tough combo 07:10 Set expectations and boundaries 09:03 Practical tips for dietary restrictions 09:54 Tips for leaving early, or declining invitations 12:00 Eat before you go 13:26 Offering alternatives 14:21 Partner and spouse dynamics 16:56 Creating health-supportive traditions 19:15 Coping mechanisms for social anxiety, avoiding drinking 24:33 The Importance of Boundaries 26:23 Community Support

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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  • Changes to the NeuroQuant MRI for CIRS: Updates that may affect YOUR report!
    Oct 29 2025

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast! In this episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Christian Navarro Torres, a PhD cognitive scientist specialized in cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and language science. They'll cover the latest updates to NeuroQuant, an FDA-approved software used for segmenting brain regions to measure volumes, particularly crucial for diagnosing and treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Navarro Torres explains the differences between the older and newer versions of NeuroQuant and how this affects CIRS patients. He also highlights how patients can get their NeuroQuant reports converted to the right version, and even generate a NQ report from raw MRI data, which has not been available before now! They will also talk about the importance of the CIRS Research Foundation and the upcoming CIRS Summit. Stay tuned until the end for money-saving tips on getting your own NeuroQuant report!

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIME STAMPS 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:35 Meet Dr. Christian Navarro Torres 02:10 NeuroQuants have CHANGED! 03:25 Understanding NeuroQuant 06:30 How to get a NeuroQuant 10:13 NeuroQuant Software Versions - which one do you have? 12:40 How the Surviving Mold report is affected by the NQ version 17:19 Future of NeuroQuant Research 19:36 How you can support CIRS Research 20:57 Practical steps and MONEY saving tips! 28:55 Special package offered for CIRSLab members

    How to work with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres: thecirslab@gmail.com https://www.cirslab.com/

    Our last NQ episode with Christian: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=dTTAS-iocn9U-hK_ Our NQ 101 episode: https://youtu.be/4-OozD0P280?si=MafRECeQ6TTAUeuj The CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/ The CIRS Summit info is coming soon! Subscribe to make sure you get notified!

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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  • Illness is the Great Equalizer: Reaction to Chris Williamson's Health Update
    Oct 22 2025

    If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie discuss YouTuber Chris Williamson's recent video titled 'It's Time to Talk About My Health,' which details his struggles with chronic health issues despite his connections in the fitness, wellness, and biohacking community. They'll cover his diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr and others, his symptoms, the treatments he attempted, and the strong possibility that he may be overlooking the Shoemaker Protocol for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Many people suffer with CIRS and think they're treating it properly, but unfortunately many doctors are not educated on the most efficient and research-backed approach, so hopefully this episode helps spread more awareness. This is not medical advice, please consult with a doctor - especially a Shoemaker certified practitioner - to decide the best treatment for you.

    If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

    Here's the link to the video we're reacting to today: https://youtu.be/IU4D_kjty2k?si=pJTJCkKaWP0wcaSd

    TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 01:34 Who is Chris Williamson? 03:03 Health challenges hit everyone, even when you're rich and famous 07:00 Chris' symptoms and diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr 8:55 Lyme or CIRS? or BOTH? 10:30 What is CIRS? 11:45 What Chris tried but didn't work 13:44 Why the RIGHT binders matter to get better 17:34 The Importance of Proper Diagnosis 18:46 Why we talk about the Shoemaker Protocol 20:42 "You're just stressed, you need rest" 23:44 "You have a million problems until you have one of them" 24:55 A unique male perspective on CIRS

    HELPFUL LINKS: Our "What is CIRS?" episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg?si=20xZ5AdP2tDqL1Q2 Our interview with Dr. Peg re: tick borne illness and CIRS: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=Xc7dhc39rLFE99kZ Our other episode on treating tick borne illness, including Lyme: https://youtu.be/3XyjE2BJvjM?si=SCf85207ricG2n7c

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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  • The Hidden Link Between HLA-B27 and CIRS (no one’s talking about this)
    Oct 15 2025

    For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the specifics of ankylosing spondylitis, an autoimmune condition that Jacie personally struggled with. They discuss the genetic aspects tied to the HLA-B27 gene and its role in autoimmune disorders, including ankylosing spondylitis, acute anterior uveitis, reactive arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. Jacie shares a detailed account of her rapid symptom progression and how treatment for CIRS (chronic inflammatory response syndrome) brought her significant relief. The episode highlights the overlap between CIRS and autoimmune conditions, emphasizing the importance of addressing environmental toxins for effective treatment.

    For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer 01:24 Understanding HLA-B27 and it's connection to autoimmune conditions 03:29 Jacie's experience with Ankylosing Spondylitis 6:50 America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys reference to AS 8:03 The connection of arthritis and eyeballs 8:40 Triggers and progression of Ankylosing Spondylitis 11:42 Treatment and Management for Ankylosing Spondylitis 12:35 Interesting connection to Klebsiella 13:25 How CIRS treatment cured Jacie's AS 16:11 Overlap between HLA-B27 and CIRS 19:00 Conclusion and Encouragement

    HELPFUL LINKS: Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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  • From Triggered to Thriving: Keep Your Environment CIRS-safe from mold, sewer gas, allergens & more!
    Oct 8 2025

    For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into practical tips and resources for maintaining a safe and healthy living or workspace. They cover important aspects including managing humidity levels, choosing a home location, working with landlords, utilizing air purifiers, and regular small particle cleaning. The episode also touches on avoiding environmental issues like endotoxins, actinomycetes, & mold. Please note the importance of consulting with a professional for personalized advice and further assistance. Hopefully these actionable steps help you keep your space safe and healthy!

    For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:26 What to look for in a new location and unit 04:13 Humidity Control Tips 06:22 Leak prevention tips and management 08:45 Air Purifiers and Return Air / HVAC Filters 12:13 Preventing sewer gas leaks (endotoxins, aka poop!) 16:37 Small Particle Cleaning to lower actinos 20:52 Handling Mycotoxins and Mold 23:39 Conclusion and Additional Resources

    HELPFUL LINKS! Our past episode on renting with CIRS: https://youtu.be/ZCjCbxKeYQ0?si=6tfF4ixs5dG0fsI3 Hydrometers on Amazon: https://a.co/d/hVz6Jgb Leak alarms on amazon: https://a.co/d/0v3oCTT Leak tray for under sinks: https://a.co/d/dQNnClA IEP Radio episode w/the owner of Air Oasis air filters: https://youtu.be/Ke2fzV9cv-Q?si=sbERp6gCZ4c-nJDf Our "You're leaking, now what?" episode: https://youtu.be/yfnTLvfbuv8?si=4nMso-NeFLm2bC1N

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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  • Understanding Gut Health with Dr. Lacey Venanzi
    Oct 1 2025

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara are joined by Dr. Lacey Venanzi, a functional medicine practitioner who specializes in treating CIRS and gut dysfunction. Dr. Lacey discusses her insights on the gut microbiome, its connection to chronic illnesses, and how the immune system plays a major role. They explore various testing methods for gut health, the implications of common symptoms, and the importance of maintaining good bacteria in the body. Dr. Lacey also shares her strategies for supporting the microbiome and emphasizes the significance of sunlight and proper blue light management for overall health recovery. The session is filled with valuable information for anyone struggling with gut health issues, offering practical steps and considerations for both patients and practitioners.

    To work with Dr. Lacey Venanzi, visit https://www.drlacey.org/ For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 01:08 Start of the interview with Dr. Lacey Interview 02:48 Why is gut dysbiosis so common with CIRS? 03:18 Immune Dysregulation and Gut Health 05:22 Problems with culture-based gut tests 08:50 Comparing the gut tests and Dr. Lacey's favorites 10:10 Reasons you may want a culturing test 11:00 Intestinal Permeability Test 13:49 When should you test your gut health? 15:45 The misconceptions about MCAS and histamine issues 17:28 The issue with normalizing common GI problems 20:00 Sleep Apnea, hormone imbalances, and testing for co-infections 23:00 Blue Light as a carcinogen 23:48 Raising MSH & the Importance of Sunlight 27:52 What does a healthy GI system even look like? 31:07 Signs of Parasites: cravings and always being hungry 32:49 How to Work with Dr. Lacey 34:01 Additional resources for learning about gut health 34:40 Preserving the host (the patient) as a method to eliminate the infection 37:20 Jacie's experience with AS and reasonable expectations for healing 43:00 The dangers of essential oils 45:31 HLA Disorders and CIRS 46:28 Don't assume: Test!

    HELPFUL LINKS! To work with Dr. Lacey Venanzi, visit https://www.drlacey.org/ Our CIRSx 2025 recap of Dr. Lacey's talk: https://youtu.be/hqqluZl28TY?si=s_M3xivsMhUmwmMJ&t=1403 Dr. Lacey's favorite gut tests (DNA sequencing tests) below: Nirvana Biome: https://www.nirvanabiome.com/ Tiny Health: https://www.tinyhealth.com/ Ombre: https://www.ombrelab.com/products/ombre-gut-health-test Resource Dr. Lacey recommended: https://www.probioticadvisor.com/

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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  • Alopecia Areata: Autoimmune hair loss treatments, causes, & connection to CIRS
    Sep 24 2025

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara dive into the autoimmune condition known as Alopecia Areata. You may be familiar with it because of Jada Pinkett Smith (and the slap heard round the world) or more recently because of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Armani Latimer's brave story on the second season of the Netflix docuseries, America's Sweethearts. Today, we'll cover those stories and Barbara will share her journey with the condition as well. They'll also explore what Alopecia Areata is, as well as its triggers, symptoms, and the connection to Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They also touch on treatment options, genetic predispositions, and related autoimmune conditions. Tune in to learn more about managing this rare condition and how it may relate to other health issues.

    For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome to The CIRS Group Podcast 00:24 Introduction and medical disclaimer 00:48 Barbara's Personal Experience with Alopecia 02:11 Alopecia in the Media 05:24 What is Alopecia Areata? 07:15 Barbara's alopecia areata timeline 08:56 Causes and Triggers of Alopecia 10:50 What Alopecia Areata is NOT 12:06 Prevalence and levels of severity of Alopecia 14:40 Risk factors for Alopecia 16:48 Treatment Options for Alopecia 19:48 Connecting autoimmune illnesses and CIRS 22:29 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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  • Are you detoxing properly? Your body may need extra help!
    Sep 17 2025

    For more info and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie delve into the crucial topic of detox pathways, particularly for those of us dealing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They discuss the body's natural mechanisms for eliminating toxins and why CIRS patients may need extra support to aid these processes. They'll cover the key organs involved such as the liver, kidneys, lungs, skin, and lymphatic system, as well as the importance of pooping! The hosts offer practical advice including lifestyle changes, proper hydration, sleep tips, and specific supplement recommendations like B vitamins, magnesium, glycine, and NAC. They'll also cover the role of diet and fasting in supporting detox pathways. Remember, this is not medical advice! Always consult healthcare professionals before making any changes. It is so important to support the body's natural detox functions without overwhelming them.

    For more info and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

    TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer 01:35 What are the body's detox pathways 03:48 Common reasons you're not detoxing properly 05:50 How supporting detox can help you heal 07:13 Practical tips to support your detox pathways 13:24 Supplements that help you detox 18:20 Diet, nutrition and fasting to support your detox pathways 22:54 Why binders like charcoal and clay aren't ideal when you're treating CIRS 24:10 Conclusion and additional resources

    Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

    The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

    Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

    Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

    Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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