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Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In today's episode, we dive into the details of the upcoming CIRS Summit 2025 happening on December 13th and 14th. The summit will have a great mix of expert interviews on a wide range of topics related to CIRS. From environmental biotoxins and brain health, to legal advice and family dynamics, there is something for everyone. We'll also talk more about how to register for the event, access replays, and contribute to CIRS research. Check out the timestamps to see who's speaking, and register here: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/

TIMESTAMPS 00:01 The CIRS Summit 2025 01:20 This year's Summit is new and improved! 02:57 Register for the CIRS Summit 03:39 Summary of all the scheduled talks! and Disclaimer 03:58 Dr Ritchie Shoemaker - Lessons for Tomorrow from Lessons in the Past 04:33 Dr. Jennifer Smith - Complex Family Systems in CIRS 05:26 Max McCord - Diagnosing the Root Cause of Environmental Biotoxins 06:19 Dr. Andrea Jordheim - How to Improve Your Brain’s Cleaning and Repair System in CIRS 07:35 Mindy Mastruserio - Reclaiming Agency in CIRS: Healing the Self Beyond the Protocol 09:10 Dr. Christian Navarro Torres - How the Latest Nasal Swab Testing Can Help You Heal 10:00 Dr. Paula Kruppstadt - A Perspective on CIRS, Autism and PANS/PANDAS from a Functional Medicine Pediatrician 10:58 Dr. Lacey Venanzi - Are you Celiac or just gluten sensitive? 12:04 Julie Helm - From Reset to Regeneration: Bridging the Shoemaker Protocol to the Bredesen Protocol 13:00 Ian Siegel - How Giftedness Becomes a Curse in a Moldy School 13:55 Louise Carder - the Leptin Connection: Satiety, Signaling and Healing 15:00 Dr. Stacey McLure - Understanding the Skin Barrier: Structure, Function and Care 15:49 Ryan Schnack - How to Build A Strong Legal Case for CIRS 16:40 Dr. April Vukelic - Tips for Managing Back and Joint Pain with CIRS 19:20 Justin Carlson - New Tools for Living Safely with CIRS: Mold Map, Find a Mold Doctor and Aerlume 22:25 Final Thoughts and how to watch for free or get the replays

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara welcome Bill Weber, a CIRS-knowledgeable Indoor Environmental Professional. Bill is a senior consultant with Avalar and a board-certified indoor environmental consultant. Bill shares his expertise on mold testing methods, the art and science of interpreting results, and why professional help is crucial for CIRS patients. He discusses his experience inspecting buildings for water damage and intrusion, the importance of hiring a certified IEP, and provides practical tips for dealing with home contents after mold contamination. Whether you're in need of understanding your ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing results, or just want practical advice on making your home as clean and safe as possible, this episode covers it all. Tune in to gain valuable insights and ensure your living environment is safe and healthy.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:33 Meet Bill Weber: Indoor Environmental Professional 03:20 Bill's favorite testing methods for mold 05:30 Understanding Mold Analysis: ERMI dust tests vs Culture tests 08:30 When to choose an ERMI dust test vs culturing 10:11 Fun fact about the first four mold types on the ERMI 11:50 Why it's so important to hire an IEP for your home 12:54 Context of climate in assessing your home 14:48 Can you interpret your own ERMI without an IEP? 19:06 Actinomycetes bacteria and endotoxin testing 22:11 Tips for collecting dust samples 26:27 Understanding the nuance and context when interpreting the data 31:30 Educating more professionals on remediating properly 34:15 Choosing to clean or throw away personal property 39:09 How to work with Bill Weber

HELPFUL LINKS: Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/ CIRSx Courses for remediators, indoor environmental professionals, and home owners: Medically Important Remediation for Professionals: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mir101 Introduction to Medically Important Assessment 101: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia101 Deeper Exploration of Medically Important Assessment 102: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia102

Bill Weber's CIRSx talk about mold testing: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222?video=955676414 Bill Weber and Michael Schrantz's CIRSx talk about inspecting a convent: Part one: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856185993 Part two: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856244891

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and her guest co-host, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, discuss the potential connection between chronic illness and mold exposure, focusing on reality TV star Mikayla Matthews from "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." They'll explore Matthews' health journey, discuss potential chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS) symptoms, and highlight the importance of accurate diagnosis and effective treatment (The Shoemaker Protocol). They delve into the scientific foundation of CIRS, the role of genetics, and the significance of environmental triggers. The episode aims to raise awareness about CIRS, offer guidance on diagnosis and treatment options, and share personal insights into managing chronic illness. This is NOT medical advice, please consult a CIRS-literate doctor for diagnosis and treatment. For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

00:00 Introduction 01:03 Who we are, and what is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) 02:20 Disclaimer and why we are commenting on Mikayla Matthews 03:50 What is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives? 05:00 Trigger Warning, opportunity to raise awareness 05:40 Mikayla Matthews' childhood and history of exposure 07:20 The CIRS and Eczema connection 08:03 Understanding CIRS and its symptoms 10:00 Her father's Parkinson's and the genetic factor in CIRS 13:11 Link between CIRS and neurodegenerative diseases 18:05 How trauma and abuse triggers chronic illness like CIRS 23:10 Mikayla's symptoms: eczema, allergies, mollescum, candida, anxiety, pain, vertigo 28:00 Labwork to order when you have Eczema: a-MSH, VEGF, MMP9 33:20 How to get a CIRS Diagnosis: symptoms and tests 42:09 Why therapies Mikayla Matthews tried but didn't work 45:50 Why urinary mycotoxin tests don't work 49:17 Why specific binders are key to healing from mold illness or CIRS 53:04 How to test your home for mold 57:00 CIRS can allow other infections to take hold 58:00 How to find a doctor to help you heal 59:05 You CAN heal with the right treatment protocol (Shoemaker)

For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com Work with Dr. Christian Navarro Torres: https://www.cirslab.com/ This episode is a reaction to the podcast interview Mikayla did re: her childhood/history: https://youtu.be/csQJIaNht6A?si=jZyHlzcU3a4cV_bq

HELPFUL LINKS: How to check if a CIRS diagnosis is the answer to your chronic health issues: Symptom Clusters: https://www.instagram.com/p/DIsxBShy0bd/ VCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening HLA DR Genetic Test: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test Dust test your home for mold: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/ Dust test your home for endotoxins (poop): https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/ Dust test your home for actino bacteria: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-test/ Find a Shoemaker certified doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol Published research to explain CIRS to your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf Published research on the diagnostic process for CIRS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf What is CIRS?: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/blog/what-is-cirs/ Our "What is CIRS?" podcast episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg Learn more about the Brain MRI called the NeuroQuant: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTM Join The CIRS Group community: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/membership/

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss the unique challenges faced by individuals with chronic illnesses during the holiday season. They delve into the importance of setting boundaries, managing expectations, and prioritizing health to make social events more manageable. The discussion includes practical tips for communicating with family and friends, handling dietary and alcohol restrictions, and developing self-care strategies before and after social gatherings. They also highlight the value of therapy and supportive relationships in navigating this difficult time. Tune in for a compassionate and informative session aimed at making your holidays more enjoyable and stress-free.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 00:50 Therapy to help support you during the season 02:18 Challenges of an invisible illness during the holidays 04:16 Why the holidays and chronic illness are a tough combo 07:10 Set expectations and boundaries 09:03 Practical tips for dietary restrictions 09:54 Tips for leaving early, or declining invitations 12:00 Eat before you go 13:26 Offering alternatives 14:21 Partner and spouse dynamics 16:56 Creating health-supportive traditions 19:15 Coping mechanisms for social anxiety, avoiding drinking 24:33 The Importance of Boundaries 26:23 Community Support

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast! In this episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Christian Navarro Torres, a PhD cognitive scientist specialized in cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and language science. They'll cover the latest updates to NeuroQuant, an FDA-approved software used for segmenting brain regions to measure volumes, particularly crucial for diagnosing and treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Navarro Torres explains the differences between the older and newer versions of NeuroQuant and how this affects CIRS patients. He also highlights how patients can get their NeuroQuant reports converted to the right version, and even generate a NQ report from raw MRI data, which has not been available before now! They will also talk about the importance of the CIRS Research Foundation and the upcoming CIRS Summit. Stay tuned until the end for money-saving tips on getting your own NeuroQuant report!

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

TIME STAMPS 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:35 Meet Dr. Christian Navarro Torres 02:10 NeuroQuants have CHANGED! 03:25 Understanding NeuroQuant 06:30 How to get a NeuroQuant 10:13 NeuroQuant Software Versions - which one do you have? 12:40 How the Surviving Mold report is affected by the NQ version 17:19 Future of NeuroQuant Research 19:36 How you can support CIRS Research 20:57 Practical steps and MONEY saving tips! 28:55 Special package offered for CIRSLab members

How to work with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres: thecirslab@gmail.com https://www.cirslab.com/

Our last NQ episode with Christian: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=dTTAS-iocn9U-hK_ Our NQ 101 episode: https://youtu.be/4-OozD0P280?si=MafRECeQ6TTAUeuj The CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/ The CIRS Summit info is coming soon! Subscribe to make sure you get notified!

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie discuss YouTuber Chris Williamson's recent video titled 'It's Time to Talk About My Health,' which details his struggles with chronic health issues despite his connections in the fitness, wellness, and biohacking community. They'll cover his diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr and others, his symptoms, the treatments he attempted, and the strong possibility that he may be overlooking the Shoemaker Protocol for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Many people suffer with CIRS and think they're treating it properly, but unfortunately many doctors are not educated on the most efficient and research-backed approach, so hopefully this episode helps spread more awareness. This is not medical advice, please consult with a doctor - especially a Shoemaker certified practitioner - to decide the best treatment for you.

If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

Here's the link to the video we're reacting to today: https://youtu.be/IU4D_kjty2k?si=pJTJCkKaWP0wcaSd

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 01:34 Who is Chris Williamson? 03:03 Health challenges hit everyone, even when you're rich and famous 07:00 Chris' symptoms and diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr 8:55 Lyme or CIRS? or BOTH? 10:30 What is CIRS? 11:45 What Chris tried but didn't work 13:44 Why the RIGHT binders matter to get better 17:34 The Importance of Proper Diagnosis 18:46 Why we talk about the Shoemaker Protocol 20:42 "You're just stressed, you need rest" 23:44 "You have a million problems until you have one of them" 24:55 A unique male perspective on CIRS

HELPFUL LINKS: Our "What is CIRS?" episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg?si=20xZ5AdP2tDqL1Q2 Our interview with Dr. Peg re: tick borne illness and CIRS: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=Xc7dhc39rLFE99kZ Our other episode on treating tick borne illness, including Lyme: https://youtu.be/3XyjE2BJvjM?si=SCf85207ricG2n7c

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the specifics of ankylosing spondylitis, an autoimmune condition that Jacie personally struggled with. They discuss the genetic aspects tied to the HLA-B27 gene and its role in autoimmune disorders, including ankylosing spondylitis, acute anterior uveitis, reactive arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. Jacie shares a detailed account of her rapid symptom progression and how treatment for CIRS (chronic inflammatory response syndrome) brought her significant relief. The episode highlights the overlap between CIRS and autoimmune conditions, emphasizing the importance of addressing environmental toxins for effective treatment.

For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer 01:24 Understanding HLA-B27 and it's connection to autoimmune conditions 03:29 Jacie's experience with Ankylosing Spondylitis 6:50 America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys reference to AS 8:03 The connection of arthritis and eyeballs 8:40 Triggers and progression of Ankylosing Spondylitis 11:42 Treatment and Management for Ankylosing Spondylitis 12:35 Interesting connection to Klebsiella 13:25 How CIRS treatment cured Jacie's AS 16:11 Overlap between HLA-B27 and CIRS 19:00 Conclusion and Encouragement

HELPFUL LINKS: Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into practical tips and resources for maintaining a safe and healthy living or workspace. They cover important aspects including managing humidity levels, choosing a home location, working with landlords, utilizing air purifiers, and regular small particle cleaning. The episode also touches on avoiding environmental issues like endotoxins, actinomycetes, & mold. Please note the importance of consulting with a professional for personalized advice and further assistance. Hopefully these actionable steps help you keep your space safe and healthy!

For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:26 What to look for in a new location and unit 04:13 Humidity Control Tips 06:22 Leak prevention tips and management 08:45 Air Purifiers and Return Air / HVAC Filters 12:13 Preventing sewer gas leaks (endotoxins, aka poop!) 16:37 Small Particle Cleaning to lower actinos 20:52 Handling Mycotoxins and Mold 23:39 Conclusion and Additional Resources

HELPFUL LINKS! Our past episode on renting with CIRS: https://youtu.be/ZCjCbxKeYQ0?si=6tfF4ixs5dG0fsI3 Hydrometers on Amazon: https://a.co/d/hVz6Jgb Leak alarms on amazon: https://a.co/d/0v3oCTT Leak tray for under sinks: https://a.co/d/dQNnClA IEP Radio episode w/the owner of Air Oasis air filters: https://youtu.be/Ke2fzV9cv-Q?si=sbERp6gCZ4c-nJDf Our "You're leaking, now what?" episode: https://youtu.be/yfnTLvfbuv8?si=4nMso-NeFLm2bC1N

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.