• S4 Ep43: Kamala Gets The Start (with David Axelrod)
    Jul 27 2024
    At the 11th hour, Kamala Harris is now the presumptive Democratic nominee. Longtime listeners will know that swing voters have had a negative impression of her--but luckily, it's just an impression! David Axelrod, former senior advisor to President Obama, joins Sarah to walk through where Harris goes from here.

    show notes
    The Bulwark in Dallas on September 5
    The Axe Files with David Axelrod
    Hacks on Tap
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    48 mins
  • S4 Ep42: The 'Jekyll and Hyde' Running Mate (with Marc Caputo)
    Jul 20 2024
    The Republican National Convention took place with the backdrop of an assassination attempt, and Donald Trump added a MAGA true believer to his ticket, in J.D. Vance. The Bulwark's Marc Caputo joins Sarah from Milwaukee to discuss the convention, the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Trump, and voters' reactions to the Trump-Vance ticket.

    This episode was recorded before Donald Trump's acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention.

    show notes
    Marc Caputo in The Bulwark: White Men Can Vote: The Logic Behind J.D. Vance for VP


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    44 mins
  • S4 Ep41: Gambling Our Rights? (with Audie Cornish)
    Jul 13 2024
    Democrats' spin holds that the calls for Joe Biden to drop out are driven by the media, while base Democratic voters beyond Washington are committed to seeing Biden as the nominee, and there will be a backlash if he isn't. In a series of focus groups with black Democratic voters this week, we found the truth to be more complicated. Audie Cornish, host of the CNN podcast The Assignment with Audie Cornish, joins Sarah to evaluate how Democratic voters (especially black voters) are grappling with whether Joe Biden should stay in the race...and how perceptions of Kamala Harris are driving the discussion.
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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • S4 Ep40: Derangement vs. Impairment (with Tim Miller)
    Jul 3 2024
    Joe Biden's debate performance was a disaster...and voters noticed. Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller bring you the voters' reactions and a frank discussion about the risks and rewards of Biden stepping aside as the nominee...because something in this race has to change.

    show notes
    Puck News: Biden Plunges in Swing States in Leaked Post-Debate Poll

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    58 mins
  • S4 Ep39: Former Hillary Voters for Trump (with Amy Walter)
    Jun 29 2024
    We taped this show before Joe Biden's disastrous first debate, but its thesis still holds true: he's losing this race. To better understand why, we fielded a group of Hispanic voters who voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, and are now leaning towards Trump. Amy Walter of The Cook Political Report joins Sarah to break down why these voters are giving Donald Trump a fresh look.

    From Amy Walter:
    Biden’s Slumping Poll Numbers Not Only Limited to Swing States
    Defectors and Double-Haters: Who Are They, and Who Can Win Them?
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    56 mins
  • S4 Ep38: Utah: The Least MAGA Red State (with McKay Coppins)
    Jun 22 2024
    Utah has been something of a bulwark (pun intended) against Trumpism, but even they haven't been immune to sliding into MAGA. And now, with Sen. Mitt Romney retiring, Republican voters are poised to pick a new U.S. senator there. The Atlantic's McKay Coppins joins Sarah to break down how Utah Republicans are different, and where they might go from here. They also discuss voters' assessments of Romney as he prepares to leave office.

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    54 mins
  • S4 Ep37: Is The GOP 'Happy With Losing'? (with Isaac Arnsdorf)
    Jun 15 2024
    One of the Republican Party's biggest long-term problems is that their base is demanding behavior that swing voters won't tolerate, and few things have brought out this gap better than Donald Trump's recent conviction. The Washington Post's Isaac Arnsdorf joins Sarah to discuss what the MAGA base expects out of politicians these days, and how swing voters are reacting.

    show notes:
    Isaac Arnsdorf's Book: Finish What We Started: The MAGA Movement’s Ground War to End Democracy

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    48 mins
  • S4 Ep36: Former Trump Voters Say 'Lock Him Up' (with Laura Barrón-López)
    Jun 8 2024
    When Donald Trump's 34 felony convictions were handed down, we had focus groups ready to talk about them. PBS Newshour's Laura Barrón-López joins Sarah to listen to swing voters' reactions to Trump's conviction, and to the start of Hunter Biden's federal trial.

    show notes
    PBS Newshour: How Republican voters feel about Trump and the election after his conviction
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    41 mins