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  • Ep. 23- The Genocide of Soviet POWs with Dallas Michelbacher
    Jun 24 2024

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    The second largest Nazi victim group after the Jews was Soviet POWs. The experience of these people has been documented in part by the latest volume of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum’s Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos.

    In this week’s episode, I talked with Dallas Michelbacher, one of the researchers on this project and a scholar of the Nazi genocide of Soviet POWs.

    Dallas Michelbacher is an applied researcher at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC.

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    1 hr and 31 mins
  • Ep. 22- Nazi Perpetrators and Disgust with Ditte Marie Munch-Jurisic
    Jun 17 2024

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    How did Holocaust perpetrators feel about what they did and how were they able to keep doing it? The question of perpetrator motivation has been one that scholars of the Holocaust have been interested in from the beginning.

    But what about the phenomenon of perpetrators who seem to have been disgusted by what they were engaged in? What does this signify? Is it some deep moral objection or something else.

    In this episode, I talked with Ditte Marie Munch-Jurisic about her truly thought-provoking work on interpretating these expressions of disgust.

    Ditte Marie Munch-Jurisic is a philosopher and teaching associate professor at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark.

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    1 hr and 31 mins
  • Ep. 21- The Zone of Interest with Barry Langford
    Jun 10 2024

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    Jonathan Glazer’s The Zone of Interest (2023) is a haunting film focused on the domestic life of Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss and his family. The family lived in a villa directly next to the Auschwitz I camp.

    In this podcast, I talk with film scholar and screenwriter Barry Langford about the history of Holocaust film as well as The Zone of Interest. We cover a lot of ground from technical choices to the nature of the so-called “banality of evil.”

    The Zone of Interest is available for free on Amazon Prime UK and for purchase on Amazon US.

    Barry Langford is a professor of film studies at Royal Holloway University. He is also an award-winning professional screenwriter.

    Langford, Barry and R. Eaglestone (eds). Teaching Holocaust Literature and Film (2007)

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    1 hr and 30 mins
  • Ep. 20- Polish Jewish Relations in the Holocaust with Jan Grabowski
    Jun 3 2024

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    The story of Polish-Jewish relations during the Holocaust is an incredibly complex and difficult one. On the one hand, Poles and Jews both suffered horribly under the Nazis. On the other, however, the general climate in Poland was inhospitable to Jews and many Poles took advantage of the Nazi occupation to victimize their Jewish neighbors for a variety of reasons.

    In this episode, I talked with Jan Grabowski about the history of Polish-Jewish relations during the Holocaust. We talked about the role of the Blue Police in hunting down and killing the Jews and we also talked about the polarizing memory battles and weaponization of this history in Poland today.

    Jan Grabowski is a professor of history at the University of Ottawa. He is a renowned scholar of the Holocaust and author of several important books on the topic.

    Grabowski, Jan. On Duty - The Polish Blue & Criminal Police in the Holocaust (2024)Grabowski, Jan. Night Without End: The Fate of Jews in German-Occupied Poland (2022)Grabowski, Jan. Hunt for the Jews: Betrayal and Murder in German-Occupied Poland(2013)

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Ep. 19- The Jasenovac Camp with Stipe Odak
    May 27 2024

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    Somewhere between 70,000 and 100,000 Jews, Roma, and ethnic Serbs were murdered in the Jasenovac concentration camp in what is now Croatian. This camp was run by Croatians without Nazi involvement. Yet few outside of the Balkans have heard of it.

    In this week’s episode, I talk with Stipe Odak about the incredibly complex history of the camp as well as the Holocaust in region. We also delve into the difficult memory politics of the camp and its use during the 1990s Balkan genocides.

    Stipe Odak is a post-doctoral researcher at the Institute of Political Science at the Université Catholique de Louvain (Belgium) and, as of September 2024, an assistant professor in the field of applied ethics at the same university. He received his PhD in Political and Social Sciences from UC Louvain (Belgium) and a doctorate in Theology from KU Leuven (Belgium).

    Odak, Stipe and Andriana Kuznar, Danijeila Lucic, eds. Jasenovac Concentration Camp: An Unfinished Past (2023)

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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • Ep. 18- Treblinka with Chad Gibbs
    May 20 2024

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    The Treblinka extermination center was responsible for the murder of approximately 925,000 Jews during the Holocaust. It was the deadliest killing site after Auschwitz. Yet few people know that it was also the scene of a successful uprising and mass escape by the prisoners there.

    In this conversation with Chad Gibbs, we talked about the history of the camp as well as the work he has done in recreating the vital social networks among prisoners that enabled the prisoner revolt.

    Chad Gibbs is an Assistant Professor in Jewish Studies and the Director of Zucker/Goldberg Center for Holocaust Studies at the College of Charleston. His forthcoming book deals with the history of the prisoner uprising at Treblinka.

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    1 hr and 36 mins
  • Ep. 17: The Kindertransport with Amy Williams
    May 13 2024

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    From the earliest days of the Third Reich through the end of the war, there were organized efforts to rescue Jewish children from the Nazis. Perhaps as many as 10,000 were rescued in this way, but without their parents. They ended up in a variety of countries and had diverse set of experiences.

    In addition, the story of the Kindertransport has worked its way into the cultural memory of the Holocaust, particularly in the United Kingdom. In this episode, I spoke with Amy Williams about the incredibly complex history of these operations and the ways in which they have been commemorated.

    Dr. Amy Willams is currently a fellow at the Zolberg Institute on Migration and Mobility at The New School, New York. For the past two years she was the module leader of the undergraduate module “Holocaust and Genocide” at Nottingham Trent University. Her new co-authored book with Prof. Bill Niven “Memory of the Kindertransport in National and Transnational Memories: Exhibitions, Memorials, and Commemorations” has recently been published by Camden House. She is working on her next co-authored book with Bill for Yale University Press on the transnational history of the Kindertransport, due to be published in 2026. Her third book for Mitteldeutscher Verlag entitled “Kindertransport: Eine Spurensuche” or “In Search of the Kindertransport” is a testimony book based on 150 interviews.

    Williams, Amy and William Niven. National and Transnational Memories of the Kindertransport: Exhibitions, Memorials, and Commemorations (2023)

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    1 hr and 37 mins
  • Ep. 16: Dwight Eisenhower and the Holocaust with Jason Lantzer
    May 6 2024

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    General Dwight Eisenhower’s visit to the Ohrdruf concentration camp in April 1945 fundamentally changed his outlook on the war and on his enemy, the Nazis. It also changed the way he carried out his duties later as US Military Governor in charge of both caring for former concentration prisoners as well as dealing with former Nazis, and, later, as President of the United States.

    In this conversation with Jason Lantzer, we talk about all of this and more.

    You can see some wartime footage of Eisnehower’s visit to Ohrdruf here courtesy of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

    Jason Lantzer is an historian and also Assistant Director of the Honors Program at Butler University.

    Lantzer, Jason. Dwight Eisenhower and the Holocaust: A History (2023)

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    1 hr and 25 mins