In this conversation, Jess and Lindz review the memoir 'Friends, Lovers, and the Big Terrible Thing' by Matthew Perry. They discuss the chaotic and narcissistic nature of the book, as well as the adult content and language throughout. They also explore the attempt at humor and the glamorization of substance abuse.

The conversation concludes with a reflection on the starting age of the author and a quote that highlights his callous approach to drugs and alcohol. In this part of the conversation, the principal themes that emerge are violence and scariness, the return to the book review, the tabs and themes identified, the theme of Batman, the prologue and beyond, childhood trauma and addiction, the near-death experience, the lack of coping skills, the feeling of abandonment, the importance of being funny, disappointment and escaping, and the lack of connection and existential crises. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss various themes and chapters of Matthew Perry's book.

They explore the chaotic nature of the writing and the interludes that interrupt the chapters. They also delve into the graphic and crass descriptions in the book and the significance of certain elements like Groundhog Day.

The hosts discuss the theme of fame and how it did not fulfill Perry. They also touch on the lack of amends and the religious moment Perry experiences.

Overall, the conversation highlights the complex themes and chapters of the book. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss Matthew Perry's dissociation from the help offered to him and the lack of closure in his book. They share memorable quotes and give their rating and final thoughts on the book. They also have a discussion about the possibility of Matthew Perry being subject to a conservatorship. The conversation ends with reflections on Matthew Perry's career and an announcement of the next book they will be reading.

Takeaways

• The interludes in the book interrupt the flow and can be confusing for readers.
• The graphic and crass descriptions in the book can be off-putting.
• Fame did not fulfill Matthew Perry and he struggled with addiction throughout his life.
• The lack of true amends in Perry's journey hindered his progress.
• Perry had a religious moment and found peace with God. Matthew Perry's dissociation from the help offered to him is evident in his book.
• The lack of closure in the book leaves many questions unanswered.
• The hosts share memorable quotes from the book.
• They give the book a rating of two stars.
• The possibility of Matthew Perry being subject to a conservatorship is discussed.
• Reflections on Matthew Perry's career are shared.
• The next book to be read is announced.