Episodes

  • Introduction Episode
    Sep 22 2020

    Welcome to The Past, The Promise, The Presidency, Season One: Race and the American Legacy! This season explores one of the most pressing issues in all of American history—the country’s troubled and difficult history of race relations. This podcast focuses on the history of the nation’s most powerful office, the President of the United States, and its complex relationship with race. This episode discusses why we felt compelled to create this podcast, why 2020 feels different, and what we hope to learn about race and the American presidency.

    Hosts Dr. Sharron Conrad, Dr. Jeffrey Engel, and Dr. Lindsay M. Chervinsky interview Dr. Maria Dixon Hall, Chief Diversity Officer at Southern Methodist University. Dr. Dixon Hall talks about her work, her teaching, the country's complex racial past, the role of race in American politics, and what she thinks will be necessary for racial healing and progress.

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    32 mins
  • Episode 1: Abraham Lincoln
    Oct 1 2020

    Today’s episode is all about Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States, a man whose story is at the center of the defining moment in American history. President during the Civil War, Lincoln saved the union and freed enslaved Americans, and thus casts a mighty long shadow over anyone who held office since. Every President since, historians say, has had to “get right with Lincoln.” But perhaps his story is more complex, as we will learn today.

    The war dominated Lincoln's presidency, and with it the question of slavery. He issued the Emancipation Proclamation on September 22, 1862 and eventually promoted the 13th amendment to end slavery nationally. He overwhelming won reelection, thanks in large part to the soldiers’ vote, and his Second Inaugural stands alongside his Gettysburg Address as arguably the two greatest examples of American oratory, ever.

    “With malice toward none,” he proclaimed in early March of 1865, “with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just, and a lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.”

    He died mere weeks later, only days after the guns of war fell silent, when felled by an assassin’s bullet. Abraham Lincoln thus became in many ways the Civil War’s last martyr, an American icon of moral strength, and also a global symbol for humanity’s inexhaustible quest for freedom.

    But….if that is his legacy….is it accurate? History has a way of rounding out the rough edges of our icons, leaving a useful image for our own times, but at times an inaccurate portrait of the man or woman as they really were. What then, should be Lincoln’s legacy? More accurately, how do historians remember him? To help answer that question and discuss Lincoln’s legacy more broadly, we spoke to two esteemed Lincoln scholars: Dr. Eric Foner and Dr. Edna Medford.

    Be sure to check out our show notes for more information on our guests, recommended readings, and more: www.pastpromisepresidency.com.

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    48 mins
  • Episode 2: Andrew Johnson
    Oct 1 2020

    Today’s episode is all about Andrew Johnson, the 17th president of the United States, a man whose presidency is synonymous with the missed opportunities of the post-Civil War era. Never elected, Johnson instead became president after Abraham Lincoln’s tragic assassination. Rather than continuing Lincoln’s agenda, Johnson instead undermined black citizenship, and attempted at every turn to thwart the Republican Party’s Reconstruction efforts in the South. He is today remembered as a bitter, angry, and failed president, and the first ever to be impeached by the House of Representatives. But he wasn’t always remembered so harshly. We will learn why today.

    Here’s a quick refresher on Johnson. Born in deep poverty in North Carolina in 1808, he apprenticed as a tailor, settled in Tennessee, and won election to the House of Representatives in 1843. After five terms in the House, he served as Tennessee’s governor and then its senator in Washington, remaining the only Senator from a Confederate State to remain loyal to the Union after secession. Lincoln appointed him military governor of Tennessee as a reward, and then brought Johnson onto the Republican national ticket during the critical election of 1864, hoping inclusion of a Southerner, and a Democrat, might help him win a tough and troubled re-election campaign. No one imagined he’d be President a mere six weeks after Lincoln’s second inauguration.

    It fell to Johnson to reunite the nation after the apocalyptic Civil War, but he couldn’t even make peace in Washington DC. Perpetually at odds with Congress, he opposed the 14th amendment made freed black Americans full citizens, supported and even pardoned former Confederate leaders, and undermined the Freedman’s Bureau created to help former enslaved individuals adjust to their new lives of freedom. Years of open political warfare led to his impeachment, which he survived by a single vote in the Senate—a vote historians now believed was bought. Rejected by both major political parties, he left office in 1868 a man reviled in the North he’d supported during the war, and beloved in the former Confederacy he’d fought against.

    Why? Because of race, plain and simple.

    To help understand his presidency and discuss Johnson’s legacy more broadly, we spoke to two esteemed scholars: Dr. Lesley Gordon and Jon Meacham.

    For more information on our guests, show notes, recommended readings and more, please visit www.pastpromisepresidency.com!

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    42 mins
  • EMERGENCY EPISODE: Presidents and Health
    Oct 8 2020

    Last week, President Donald Trump revealed he has tested positive for COVID-19. After experiencing symptoms and trouble breathing, he was transferred to Walter Reed Medical Center on Friday night, October 2, 2020. While receiving treatment, President Trump's staff and doctors released conflicting and confusing information about his health.

    But 2020 isn't the first time a president and his doctors have kept information about health a secret. In fact, more often than not, presidents keep their health condition private.

    Over the last week, lots of media and news reports have mentioned these past incidents of presidential health, but rarely do they provide details. So this emergency episode gives some more information about George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George H.W. Bush. We also discuss what information presidents owe to the American people and whether they are entitled to privacy about their health like every other average citizen.

    Next week, we'll be back to our usual scheduled programming with an episode on President Ulysses S. Grant.

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    40 mins
  • Episode 4: Ulysses S. Grant
    Oct 15 2020

    Today’s episode is all about Ulysses S. Grant, the 18th president of the United States, a man whose story is inextricably intertwined with the history of race in America. He was, after all the, the commanding General of the Union Forces that ultimately won the Civil War, and he was present at every step of the way as the country faced perhaps an even larger task: reconstructing a workable union in the wake of the war.

    A national hero, he served contentiously under Andrew Johnson following Lincoln’s tragic death, and succeeded both men when elected President in 1868. He served two terms, until 1877, years that were incredibly consequential for the course of the South, the Union, and in particular for the millions of African Americans freed at war’s end, but uncertain for what the future might hold. He’d fought to save the Union during the war. He’d have to fight again to preserve it long after the guns fell silent.

    In today's episode, we speak to Dr. Hilary Green, Associate Professor at the University of Alabama, and Nick Sacco, Park Ranger at the Ulysses S. Grant National Park Service site in St. Louis. We learn from our two Grant experts that we can’t understand his life, his legacy, and certainly not his presidency, without grappling with the biggest event of all: the Civil War.

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    44 mins
  • Episode 5: Rutherford B. Hayes
    Oct 22 2020

    Today’s episode is all about Rutherford B. Hayes, the 19th president of the United States, a man whose name is synonymous with the end of Reconstruction and the rise of Jim Crow in the south. But perhaps his legacy isn’t quite that simple.

    Here’s a quick refresher on Hayes. Born in Ohio in 1822, he was trained as a lawyer, prior to enlisting in the Union Army during the Civil War. After serving bravely in the war, he was elected to Congress and then as Governor of Ohio. Although Hayes had been a staunch abolitionist, had defended enslaved individuals in runaway court proceedings before the war, and supported Radical Republican Reconstruction programs, he made a deal with the devil to win the presidency. In the 1877 election, Hayes lost the popular vote, but won the electoral college through a congressional deal that gave him the victory, in return for withdrawing federal troops from the south.

    We will learn from two Hayes experts, Dr. Brooks Simpson and Dr. Alaina Roberts, about why Hayes’ election is often seen as a dividing line in our nation’s history—defining the end of federal government intervention on behalf of formerly enslaved people in the South, and the beginning of a prolonged era of state-sanctioned terror for black Americans. This era also ushered in increased encroachment upon Native American lands and sovereignty—and raised new questions about land ownership and citizenship rights—as the nation moved westward.

    Visit pastpromisepresidency.com to learn more.

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    49 mins
  • Episode 6: James A. Garfield and Chester A. Arthur
    Oct 29 2020

    Today’s episode is all about Presidents James A. Garfield and Chester A. Arthur. Garfield, the 20th president of the United States, was only in office six and a half months before he died from medical complications following a botched assassination. Just sixteen years after Lincoln’s death, Garfield was the second president assassinated. His vice president, Chester Arthur, served the remainder of his term.

    We will learn from two experts about why Arthur’s presidency was dominated by civil service reform, debates over immigration, and conflict over Native American policy—and how the administration might have gone differently if Garfield had survived. For this episode, we spoke to two esteemed scholars. Todd Arrington and Dr. Katie Benton-Cohen helped us grapple with three critical themes:

    • First, the potential for greater civil rights under President Garfield and the opportunity lost with his assassination.
    • Second, the emergence of the southwest as a site of racial tension.
    • Third, the increasing role of immigration in racial relations.

    Visit pastpromisepresidency.com to learn more.

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    52 mins
  • Episode 7: Grover Cleveland and Benjamin Harrison
    Nov 5 2020

    Today’s episode is all about Presidents Grover Cleveland and Benjamin Harrison, the 22nd, 23rd, and 24th presidents of the United States—one of the most unusual transitions in US history. Cleveland served one term from 1885 to 1889, lost the election to Benjamin Harrison, who was in turn replaced by Cleveland in 1892. Whew. And you thought our times were complicated!

    Our two experts today will fill in the details of their stories, and how their politics continue to inform our current moment. For this episode, we spoke to two esteemed scholars: Dr. Greg Downs, Professor of History at the University of California, Davis, and Dr. Gordon Chang, Professor of History at Stanford University.

    Together our guests highlighted two key stories from this period: First, the ongoing battle, and ultimately the ongoing erosion, of African-American civil rights in the South now a full generation after the Civil War’s end. And second, immigration’s increasingly key role in the fight over who could, in fact, be a citizen, or if you will, a real American.

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    49 mins