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The Property Trio (formerly The Property Planner, Buyer and Professor)

The Property Trio (formerly The Property Planner, Buyer and Professor)

De: Cate Bakos David Johnston and Mike Mortlock
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Formerly The Property Planner, Buyer and Professor, our show rebranded in 2023 to The Property Trio.

Residential property is the only asset class we live in, it is where we raise our families, and it is our most expensive investment, yet property advice remains unregulated. Our objective is to educate time-poor professionals through deep insights from our experts who have provided thousands of Australians with personalised advice and education spanning two decades. In a climate where we are overloaded with information and one size fits all recommendations from the media, well-meaning friends and family and so-called advisers, we will distill the raw truth from the ill-informed.

So join the Property Planner, David Johnston, The Property Buyer, Cate Bakos and the Quantity Surveyor, Mike Mortlock as they take you on a journey of discovery through the maze of property, mortgage, and money decisions to empower you to create your ideal lifestyle!



Links to your hosts:
https://www.catebakos.com.au/
https://propertyplanning.com.au/
https://www.mcgqs.com.au/

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  • #327: Market Update August 2025 – Second Wind for Brisbane, Adelaide & Perth, Listings Stay Tight & Rents Fuel Inflation Concerns
    Sep 15 2025
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    In this latest market update episode, the Trio unpack the findings in the August data, and they reflect on the cash rate cut and how 2025's third cash rate cut has impacted the early spring market.

    🏡 The Property Trio: Market Movers, Segmentation & City Standouts It's interesting to see the perennial performers of 2023 and 2024—Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth are still delivering. Brisbane’s 1.2% monthly growth even pipped Darwin's (1.1%), while Perth clocked 1.1% and Adelaide added 0.9%. Darwin continues to lead the nation on an annualised basis, but the Trio ask: how much longer can these hot markets run? Cate weighs in on Melbourne, where official growth numbers appear soft compared with the strong buyer competition she’s experiencing on the ground. She attributes this to segmentation, noting that upgraders—often emotionally driven and recently boosted by interest rate cuts—are pushing the middle of the market hardest. Mike backs this up with data: the 50th percentile is outperforming both the bottom and top quartiles.

    The Trio also highlight that national growth is broadly positive, with every capital except Hobart showing gains over the last three months. Melbourne may be lagging on paper, but it’s just 3% shy of its 2022 peak—a sign of resilience and potential upside. Dave contrasts quartile data across cities, noting that in Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth, the lowest quartile is leading, suggesting investors and latecomers may be driving the final leg of this cycle.

    🏡 The Property Trio: Spring Stock, Footy Fever & Market Sentiment Spring has arrived, but for property watchers, it doesn’t quite feel like the floodgates have opened yet. Cate reminds listeners that we’re only in early September—and for Melbourne, (and much of Victoria), the property market doesn’t hit full stride until after the AFL season finishes. In a city where everything stops for footy, October is traditionally when listing volumes surge.

    📈 Agents are reporting stronger appraisal activity and plenty of auction dates locked in, but stock levels remain tight.

    🤔 This supply/demand imbalance creates a tricky chicken-and-egg scenario. Vendors don’t want to list until they’ve secured their next home, but in a rising market, especially with rare or fussy briefs, hesitation can stall the cycle. Dave and Mike weigh in on the balancing act sellers face between locking in strong results and avoiding homelessness.

    📊 Mike brings the data lens to national listings. Darwin and Brisbane are showing sharp annual contractions in stock, aligning with their recent strong performances. Meanwhile, Melbourne and Hobart are down year-on-year, possibly reflecting weaker sentiment and more cautious vendors. Dave stresses the importance of comparing numbers to five-year averages, reminding listeners that spring always swells supply, but buyer demand doesn’t fluctuate nearly as much.

    🌏 The Trio then tackle a puzzling consumer sentiment report: despite an interest rate cut sparking buyer activity on the ground, confidence in the economy has dropped. Global conflict and local unrest may be weighing on Australians’ psyche, even while house price expectations remain firm. This lively episode blends property insights with cultural context, giving listeners a glimpse of spring 2025’s early signs, the quirks of timing around footy season, and the broader forces shaping confidence in our markets.

    Shownotes: https://www.propertytrio.com.au/2025/09/15/ep-327-august-2025-market-update/
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  • #326: All Things Granny Flats – Insights on Investment, Lending and Lifestyle
    Sep 8 2025
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    🎙️ In this episode of The Property Trio, Dave Johnston, Cate Bakos, and Mike Mortlock unpack a fantastic listener question from Jade about granny flats in Melbourne. With her mum considering upsizing and building a $250,000 granny flat for multi-generational living, Jade wanted to know: is it a smart value-add or just an expensive lifestyle decision?

    🏡 Cate’s Take – Lifestyle Over Capital Growth
    Cate kicks off by stressing the key distinction between lifestyle value and market value. Granny flats can be brilliant for families — providing affordable housing for parents, in-laws, or adult kids — but they rarely deliver strong capital growth. Most mainstream buyers in Melbourne simply prefer a bigger backyard over a second dwelling, and in some cases, granny flats can even detract from resale appeal. Cate highlights that the decision must come down to family priorities rather than assumptions about adding financial value.

    💰 Mike’s Numbers – Costs, Yields & Depreciation
    Mike digs into the data. While Sydney has seen investors boost yields with granny flats, Melbourne’s stricter planning rules make it harder. With build costs often ranging from $150,000 to $300,000, the risk of overcapitalisation is real. For family use, there’s no rental income to offset expenses, and lenders generally don’t assign much extra value to granny flats unless fully approved and rentable. There can be depreciation benefits, but only if income is being generated. ⚖️ Regulations – Small Second Homes vs Dependent Person’s Units
    A major theme of the discussion is Victoria’s new planning changes. Cate explains the difference between “Small Second Homes” (up to 60m², rentable, no planning permit needed in most cases) and “Dependent Person’s Units” (for family use only, often requiring removal when no longer occupied). Understanding these distinctions is vital — the wrong choice could trigger compliance headaches, fines, or even council orders.

    👨‍👩‍👦 The Verdict – Family First, Investment Second
    The Trio wrap up with clear advice: granny flats can be fantastic for family needs — affordable, practical, and supportive of multi-generational living. But from an investment perspective, they’re rarely a capital growth driver in Melbourne. For Jade, the decision should hinge on lifestyle benefits, not financial returns.

    And our gold nuggets!.....

    Cate Bakos's gold nugget: The mainstream market preferences must be considered when weighing up overcapitalisation threats.

    Mike Mortlock's gold nugget: Mike considers the cost-benefit proposition of a granny flat build. His live modelling suggests a payback period of 16 years; a significant amount of time.

    David Johnston's gold nugget: "Go and talk to anyone you know who has built a granny flat, and find out mroe about their experience, return on investment, and their overall outcome."

    Show notes: https://www.propertytrio.com.au/2025/09/07/granny-flats/
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    42 m
  • #325: Clearing the Deposit Hurdle - Why the Old 20% Benchmark No Longer Stacks Up and How Buyers Are Adapting
    Sep 1 2025
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    🎙️ In this eye-opening episode, Dave, Cate and Mike dig into brand-new research on housing affordability from MCG Quantity Surveyors. But instead of looking at mortgage repayments, this report flips the focus to deposits — an obvious entry hurdle for buyers. What they uncover is staggering: the time it takes to save a 20% deposit has tripled or even quadrupled since the 1970s. However, the Trio also delve into the deposit size and question whether 20% is all that applicable in today's day and age.

    📊 Mike explains why deposits matter more than repayments in understanding affordability. Back in 1975, saving a 20% deposit took around six months of income. Today, it takes two years or more — before repayments even begin. Prices have risen 30–40× since the mid-70s, while wages have only grown 10×. The gap is where affordability has collapsed, and it’s clearly visible across every Australian capital city.

    🏡 Cate takes us through the hard numbers: Sydney’s deposit multiple has jumped from 29 weeks of income in 1975 to 121 weeks today. Melbourne has moved from 32 to 97, Brisbane from 28 to 104, and Adelaide from 35 to 114. Even Hobart, once the most affordable, has shifted from 40 to 93. These figures make one thing clear — buying into the market now requires a far longer savings journey, even at a reduced deposit size.

    💰 Cate shares a Sydney case study. In 1975, a family needed just $6,860 for a 20% deposit — achievable in seven months. Fast forward to 2025, and the required deposit has blown out to $282,000. At today’s incomes, that’s more than two years of full earnings. Factoring in tax, rent and everyday living costs, translates to a decade or more of disciplined saving.

    📉 Brisbane paints a similar picture. Back in 1975, buyers could scrape together a deposit in six months. Today, despite lower house prices compared to Sydney, Brisbane buyers still face a two-year deposit hurdle. With house prices in Brisbane and Adelaide surging 70% since COVID, affordability in these “cheaper” markets has eroded just as sharply.

    🏦 The Trio also break down the role of government schemes — from first-home buyer grants to stamp duty concessions. While these policies help individuals in the short term, they’re stimulatory, adding buying power but pushing prices up. The result? Affordability worsens for those left out of the schemes, and the saving treadmill just speeds up. Yet Dave and Cate shed light on some of the advantages and initiatives on offer for today's first home buyers. Is the 20% hurdle a fair one to contrast to the old days?

    🚦Dave reminds listeners that the affordability gulf isn’t about monthly repayments — it’s about the growing difficulty of getting through the deposit door. But he also promises to share a counter episode on deposits! Stay tuned...

    And our gold nuggets!.....

    Cate Bakos's gold nugget: Cate explains the difference between the deposit and the servicing. Both are very important, but mutually exclusive.

    David Johnston's gold nugget: Dave has some great suggestions for our first homebuyer listeners, from planning, to assessing their needs, to starting with a smaller property as a stepping stone. "You need to be pragmatic, because the earlier you get into the property market, the better."

    Mike Mortlock's gold nugget: Mike conducts this research because he loves to start a conversation. He also mentions some statistics that Alan Kohler shared on the ABC (see notes in our shownotes).

    Shownotes: https://www.propertytrio.com.au/2025/09/01/clearing-the-deposit-hurdle/
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    41 m
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