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The Reformed Libertarians Podcast

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  • The Reformed Libertarians Podcast aims to educate and inspire listeners to intelligently embrace and passionately promote a view of libertarianism as grounded in the Reformed Faith, and informed by a Reformed worldview. Exploring free society from a Reformed perspective, hosts Kerry Baldwin and Gregory Baus discuss culture, society, politics, economics, theology, philosophy, worldview, and more. Follow the show at reformedlibertarians.com and discover how to think about liberty and human flourishing based in the Reformed Faith.
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  • Ep. 17: David VanDrunen’s View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummond

    Ep. 17: David VanDrunen’s View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummond
    Jul 18 2024

    An interview with Pastor Taylor Drummond about his article “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” which appreciatively, but critically, examines arguments in the book Politics After Christendom by Dr. David VanDrunen. Pastor Drummond introduces himself and recounts how he became a confessional, Calvinistic Baptist, and a libertarian-anarchist. He speaks about how VanDrunen’s biblical arguments for the legitimacy of the state fail his own standard for justifying the state. Drummond also explains how VanDrunen’s theoretical argument is at odds with his own view of law, justice, and rights, and is in tension with many of his economic and theological insights.

    https://reformedlibertarians.com/017

    Main Points Of Discussion

    00:00 Introduction

    00:32 Episode description

    01:50 About Pastor Drummond

    06:54 VanDrunen’s brief biblical arguments and Drummond’s response

    17:22 Monopoly, Noahic covenant, and negative natural rights

    24:26 VanDrunen’s view of customary legal order

    27:50 Drummond’s response on law and rights

    34:44 Need for clearly distinguishing just and unjust coercion

    38:56 Protectionism, sin, politicization, and inefficiency

    47:29 Concluding thoughts


    Additional Resources

    Article discussed: “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummond: https://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdf

    Politics After Christendom by David VanDrunen: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/

    Taylor Drummond
    congregation: Grace Community Church, Allentown PA https://gracecommunityallentown.org/
    Politics substack: https://thearchy.substack.com/
    Theology site: https://servantofthesovereign.wordpress.com/

    Other books mentioned:
    The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek: https://mises.org/library/book/road-serfdom
    The Law by Frederic Bastiat: https://mises.org/library/book/law
    Foundations of Economics: A Christian View by Shawn Ritenour: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1556357249/
    The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0895261715/
    For A New Liberty by Murray Rothbard: https://mises.org/library/book/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto

    Christian Libertarian Review call for papers 2024: https://libertarianchristians.com/2024/02/03/call-for-papers-2024-volume/


    The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net

    Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
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    50 mins
  • Ep. 16: The Five Elements and Epochs of The Kingdom Of God

    Ep. 16: The Five Elements and Epochs of The Kingdom Of God
    Jun 6 2024
    An introduction to a Reformed view of the Kingdom of God in its 5 elements and its 5 covenantally-administered epochs, culminating in the Kingdom’s definitive consummation in the New Creation. The relation between Christian cultural activity and the Kingdom of God is also clarified.https://reformedlibertarians.com/016Main Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description 01:03 Kingdom of God as the New Creation and central to Bible and all reality03:25 5 “Royal” Elements Ruler, Realm, Reign, those Ruled, Regulation by Covenant05:31 Covenant in Scripture as oath-commitment Covenants as administering Kingdom of God07:20 5 Epochs 1. Probation/Proffered 2. Promised 3. Prefigured 4. Present-Inauguration 5. Parousia-Consummation & See "The Grid": https://upper-register.com/papers/kline_grid.pdf10:22 Contrary to postmil, premil, and heresy* [see note below] of popular “Evangelical” Dispensationalism12:15 1st Epoch: Probation – the Covenant of Works “Eschatology Precedes Soteriology”17:10 2nd Epoch: Promised – the Protevangelium (Gen. 3.15) and Abrahamic Covenant The Seed is Christ, the Land is New Creation, the Blessing is Salvation by grace alone, thru faith alone, in Christ alone19:24 3rd Epoch: Prefigured – the Old Mosaic Covenant Temporary and typological theocracy Suspension of normal operations of “common grace” Non-free market and coercive punishment of non-aggressive immorality Typological principle of works (covenant blessings & curses)24:03 4th Epoch: Present-Inauguration – the New Covenant The gospel, salvation accomplished in history Crucial distinction between (a) “subjective recognition of Christ’s reign” involving the implications of Christian beliefs for all of life -vs.- (b) “objective realm” of Christ’s Kingdom as the new heavens&earth, presently and uniquely manifest as the institutional church (not as common culture or society) The gospel, church, and presently-inaugurated Kingdom are NOT “political”30:23 5th Epoch: Parousia-Consummation – the everlasting, full realization of the New Covenant Flesh & blood (pre-glorified human nature) cannot inherit the Kingdom, and so requires eschatological transformation, glorified incorruptibility*NoteDiffering forms of Dispensationalism (heretical or not) have been used by some to justify the worst of the United States government’s murderous, warmongering foreign policy. One of Dispensationalism’s erroneous beliefs (in all its forms) is that after the first advent of Christ, God’s promise to give the physical territory of Canaan to the physical descendants of Israel remains in effect.A doctrinal “heresy” can be understood as a teaching that denies some point of orthodox creedal teaching. The heretical teaching we had in mind (and should have specified) is the belief that prior to Christ’s first advent, or during the era of the Law (or Old Covenant), salvation was not by grace through faith in Christ, the promised Savior. Not all forms of Dispensationalism teach this, however.For further discussion of Dispensationalism, see this lecture on The New Covenant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynilaJANdoMAdditional Resources:The Majesty On High, by Steven M. Baughhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/1544985584/ - Books At A Glance summaryhttps://www.booksataglance.com/book-reviews/the-majesty-on-high-introduction-to-the-kingdom-of-god-in-the-new-testament-by-s-m-baugh/Audio from Baugh on the Kingdom of God - Reformed Forum, Christ The Center Podcast ep.635 w/Baugh on The Majesty On Highhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUnRUG-eGHI - WSCal Office Hours Podcast w/Baugh on The Majesty On Highhttps://www.wscal.edu/devotion/kingdom-of-god/ - Lecture by Baugh on Kingdom as Consummationhttps://www.wscal.edu/devotion/thy-kingdom-come/ - Conference Presentation by Baugh on Kingdom in New Testamenthttps://www.wscal.edu/devotion/the-kingdom-in-the-new-testament/ - Devotional by Baugh on Kingdom in John’s writingshttps://www.wscal.edu/devotion/a-survey-of-the-kingdom-of-god-in-johns-writings/“The New Creation, the Kingdom of God, and the Church,” by Steven M. Baughhttps://opc.org/nh.html?article_id=1128Spring 2024 Friday Night Academy on Covenant Theology in systematic, biblical, and practical perspectives by Pastor Charles Lee Irons of Santa Clarita URChttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu9WPd6FaReLxZkaK7VO8plESacred Bond: Covenant Theology Explored (2nd ed), by Brown and Keelehttps://reformedfellowship.net/products/sacred-bond-covenant-theology-explored-second-editionReformed Covenant Theology: A Systematic Introduction, by Harrison Perkinshttps://www.heritagebooks.org/products/reformed-covenant-theology-a-systematic-introduction-perkins.htmlvideo explaining The Biblical-Theological “Grid” graphic of the Kingdom Of God in 5 Epochs, by Lee Ironshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu7rbuOseZ8 [ PDF of The Grid : https://upper-register.com/papers/...
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    34 mins
  • Bonus: Should Christian Libertarians Reject Biblical Inerrancy?

    Bonus: Should Christian Libertarians Reject Biblical Inerrancy?
    Jan 25 2024
    A reading of Kerry Baldwin’s article on biblical inerrancy, which discusses a blog post by Pete Enns in which he says why he believes the Bible has errors, and no one is obligated to obey Romans 13. Resources for a better (non-biblicist) view of inerrancy and a better view of Romans 13 are recommended. The hosts also give an update about new episodes.https://reformedlibertarians.com/bonusB00:00 Start00:09 Update00:49 Intro to Kerry's article01:46 Enns wrong on Romans 1304:42 Enns confuses biblical inerrancy with biblicism07:03 A non-biblicist view of inerrancy08:35 A better view of Romans 1310:00 Covenantal sensitivity11:49 ConclusionAdditional Resources:Does Biblical Inerrancy Threaten Libertarianism? by Kerry Baldwinhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/does-biblical-inerrancy-threaten-libertarianism/Episode 14 of The Reformed Libertarians Podcast, Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Caseyhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/014Note on the danger of biblicism by Terry Johnson and Shane Lemshttps://reformedreader.wordpress.com/2017/06/22/the-danger-of-biblicism/Different views of biblical inerrancy by Kam Weng Nghttps://krisispraxis.com/archives/2016/06/inerrancy-of-the-bible-defined-and-defended-part-1/The Framework Interpretation of Creation Days by Lee Ironshttps://upper-register.com/papers/framework_interpretation.htmlThe Truthfulness of Scripture by Michael Hortonhttps://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/the-truthfulness-of-scriptureThe Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancyhttps://www.alliancenet.org/international-council-on-biblical-inerrancyWell-versed Inerrancy by Kevin Vanhoozerhttps://henrycenter.tiu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013April_Vanhoozer-inerrancy.pdfVideo presentation on well-versed inerrancy by Kevin Vanhoozerhttps://vimeo.com/79158043Can The Bible Contain Errors? by Greg Bealehttps://faculty.wts.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2011-Spring-Inspired.pdfAudio presentation on inerrancy by Greg Bealehttp://media1.wts.edu/media/audio/gkbeale_lecture_copyright.mp3Review of Enns' book against inerrancy by Greg Bealehttps://www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/49/49-2/JETS_49-2_287-312_Beale.pdfThe Erosion Of Inerrancy by Greg Bealehttps://amazon.com/dp/1433502038Romans 13: A Reformed View by Gregory Baushttps://libertarianchristians.com/2021/11/24/romans-13-and-stateless-civil-governance-a-reformed-view/Episode 2 of The Reformed Libertarians Podcast, What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government?https://reformedlibertarians.com/002Episode 42 of The Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Why Isn't the State Biblically Justified? Resolving Romans 13 Objections, with Gregory Baushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBbFFBwMaLQEpisode 14 of The Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Does The Conquest of Canaan Conflict with Anarchism? with Gregory Baushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFqcQlPuAReformed Libertarians Podcast hosts' appearances elsewherehttps://reformedlibertarians.com/appearances/Also see a highly-relevant article on a pattern of turning ex-vangelical, especially as among women, by Kerry Baldwinhttps://mereliberty.com/theology/pattern-of-deconstruction-women/ The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute and a member of the Christians for Liberty NetworkAudio Production by Podsworth Media.
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    13 mins
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