Tony sits down with Jake Hanson, former church camp director and now Director of Development at Pheasants Forever. They discuss being called to ministry and philanthropy, ministry burnout, deer hunting with grandpa, putting your heart and soul into your career, pheasants as a gateway drug to upland hunting, times of discernment, three dimensions of spiritual connections to the outdoors, never having regrets for being generous, and much more.

Read more about Jake here: https://www.pheasantsforever.org/BlogLanding/Blogs/Pheasants-Forever/Jake-Hanson-promoted-to-Director-of-Development.aspx

Tony talks with Sam Shephard, associate professor of biology at Ave Maria University and lead author of "Recreational killing of wild animals can foster environmental stewardship," recently published in Nature Sustainability. Tony and Sam discuss being from the Isle of Skye, wandering barefoot around India, fishing with indigenous people in Guyana, why the person who's catching the most fish is probably the person most embedded in the environment, how humans are deeply related to all of creation, why it's bad that we sanitize hunting, how conducting difficult outdoors tasks makes you a better steward of creation, rabbit hunting with ferrets, the practice of fly fishing, and more. Read Sam's article here: https://rdcu.be/dMB0g

Tony sits down to share some news about the Reverend Hunter Podcast, give some shout-outs, and talk about the future of the podcast. He also talks about a tough summer, full of both joys and sorrows, and updates listeners on his book, GodOfWildPlaces.com. Be sure to tune in for this very special episode.