Episodes

  • Ep. 256 - The SE ETC Series - 2024 State of Vishing Report Analysis with Chris and Dr. Abbie

    Ep. 256 - The SE ETC Series - 2024 State of Vishing Report Analysis with Chris and Dr. Abbie
    Apr 22 2024

    Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [April 22, 2024]

    00:00 - Intro

    00:16 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

    00:40 - Intro Links

    - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

    - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

    - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

    - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

    - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

    - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

    - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

    03:24 - 2024 State of Vishing Report

    04:00 - The Data Set

    04:55 - Compromise Rates

    08:06 - Voicemail Compromise

    09:14 - Play Silly Games...

    10:11 - Breaking Expectations

    14:29 - Battle of the Sexes

    15:52 - Most Effective Principle

    18:56 - Lesser Principles

    20:19 - Midday Slump

    22:14 - The Report Overview

    23:10 - Research Partners

    23:46 - Wrap Up & Outro

    - www.social-engineer.com

    - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

    Find us online

    - Chris Hadnagy

    - Twitter: @humanhacker

    - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

    - Dr. Abbie Maroño

    - Twitter: @DrAbbieofficial

    - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd

    - Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial
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    25 mins
  • Ep. 255 - Security Awareness Series - Faking Reality: AI Deepfakes and the Future of Truth with Justin and Paul

    Ep. 255 - Security Awareness Series - Faking Reality: AI Deepfakes and the Future of Truth with Justin and Paul
    Apr 15 2024
    Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Paul Vann and Justin Marciano. Paul Vann is a seasoned cybersecurity professional, with experience across numerous emerging markets in the field. He has worked at a wide array of cybersecurity and software development startups, helping to ensure a more secure future for all. Paul additionally is passionate about emerging technologies in the space and was recognized as a Top rated Speaker at the RSA Conference in 2023. Justin Marciano is the Co-Founder and CEO of IdentifAI. Studying economics with a concentration in finance at the University of Virginia, he has navigated his way through the venture capital, blockchain, and payment sectors, aligning his career path with his enthusiasm for emerging technologies. Justin currently works in product management and has previously worked at Stepstone Group as a VC & Growth Analyst. [April 15, 2024] 00:00 - Intro 00:22 - Intro Links: - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:44 - Paul Vann & Justin Marciano Intro 04:55 - IdentifAI 05:53 - Follow the Trends 06:37 - How Big is This Problem? 09:37 - Deepfakes for Hacking 10:43 - A Real Story 12:38 - Using What's Real 14:11 - Beyond Cat & Mouse 17:02 - AI and the Law 19:29 - Tracing the Source 21:59 - Balancing Act 23:44 - Training or Expanding? 29:35 - An Attempt Was Made 32:04 - Keeping it Real 34:38 - A New Partnership! 35:59 - Find Justin and Paul online - Website: identif-ai.com - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/identifai-llc - Justin's LinkedIn: in/justin-marciano32/ - Paul's LinkedIn: in/paul-vann-b996b2120/ 37:13 - Mentors - Justin: - Jeff Silver - Martin Roche - Paul: - Paul Vann (Father) - Jennifer Romeo 39:30 - Book Recommendations - The Hardware Hacking Handbook - Colin O'Flynn and Jasper van Woudenberg - On the Origin of Time - Thomas Hertog - Blink - Malcolm Gladwell 41:37 - Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
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    43 mins
  • Ep. 254 - Human Element Series - The Origins of Empathy and How To Use It with Chris Voss

    Ep. 254 - Human Element Series - The Origins of Empathy and How To Use It with Chris Voss
    Apr 8 2024
    Today we are joined by Chris Voss. Mr. Voss is a former Lead FBI Negotiator and dynamic speaker who debunks the biggest myths of negotiation. Chris engages all groups with captivating stories, insights, and useful tips for business and everyday life. He has lectured on negotiation at business schools across the country and has been seen on ABC, CBS, CNN, and Fox News. Chris has also been featured in Forbes, Time, Fast Company, and Inc. Chris’s Keynotes are based on his book Never Split The Difference©. [April 8, 2024] 00:00 - Intro 00:20 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 02:26 - Chris Voss Intro 03:25 - Good Work If You Can Get It 04:51 - A Donkey, A Clown & A Hippopotamus 08:52 - Emotions Are Contagious 10:02 - Proof of Life 13:23 - Mirror, Mirror 17:21 - Negotiation is a Language 18:44 - Empathy, Not Advice 22:28 - Be Willing to be Wrong 29:46 - Slaughter at Harvard 33:17 - Empathy Isn't Agreement 36:51 - Validating Perspective 38:27 - It Starts with Practice 40:43 - Mentors - Parents - Gary Noesner 41:39 - Book Recommendations - Chip War - Chris Miller - Never Split the Difference - Chris Voss 43:22 - Find Chris Voss online - Website: blackswanltd.com - Instagram: @thefbinegotiator - Twitter: @fbinegotiator - YouTube: @NegotiationMastery 44:23 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
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    45 mins
  • Ep. 253 - The Doctor Is In Series - Understanding Human Behavior with Dr. David Matsumoto

    Ep. 253 - The Doctor Is In Series - Understanding Human Behavior with Dr. David Matsumoto
    Apr 1 2024
    Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology. In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are joined by Dr. David Matsumoto. Dr. Matsumoto, Director of Humintell, is a world-renowned expert in the fields of emotion, nonverbal behavior, deception, and culture. He received his bachelor’s degree from the University of Michigan in 1981, double majoring in psychology and Japanese and receiving High Honors in both. He obtained his Masters (1983) and Doctoral (1986) degrees in Psychology from the University of California at Berkeley. He has been a Professor of Psychology at San Francisco State University (SFSU) since 1989, and is the Founder and Director of SFSU’s Culture and Emotion Research Laboratory. Dr. Matsumoto is an expert in threat assessment and management, especially in relation to behavioral indicators of operational bad actors. He has conducted the only study to date of the cognitions, emotions, and behaviors of bad actors when they are actively engaged in an act of violence, and he has briefed the results of this work to several government agencies. He has also conducted decades of research on behavioral indicators related to deception about the intent to commit acts of malfeasance in the future, and the behavioral indicators that emerged from this work has been briefed to countless military, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies and operators. [April 1, 2024] 00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 01:16 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:29 - Dr. David Matsumoto Intro 05:02 - The Topic of the Day: Emotion & Nonverbal Communication 05:29 - The Origins of Human Emotion 09:46 - Olympic-Level Study 17:00 - Strike a Pose 19:30 - Behavioral Indicators 25:01 - Emotional Buffer 25:42 - Data Sourcing 31:26 - In Context 32:51 - The Anonymous Factor 35:37 - The Human Factor 37:15 - New Book 37:58 - A Writers Obligation 41:46 - On A Mission 45:11 - Find Dr. Matsumoto Online - Website: www.humintell.com - X/Twitter: @davidmatsumoto - LinkedIn: in/davidmatsumoto - YouTube: @Humintell 46:00 - Wrap Up 46:29 - Next Month: Overworking 46:59 - Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a - Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial - Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy
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    47 mins
  • Ep. 252 - The SE ETC Series - Crypto, Phishing and SMiShing...Oh My

    Ep. 252 - The SE ETC Series - Crypto, Phishing and SMiShing...Oh My
    Mar 25 2024

    Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [March 25, 2024]

    00:00 - Intro

    00:18 - Intro Links

    - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

    - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

    - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

    - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

    - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

    - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

    - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

    04:48 - Ransomware: No Code of Conduct

    06:50 - Education

    07:52 - Policies

    09:17 - Protection

    10:14 - Backup Plan

    11:05 - Gone Phishin'

    12:50 - Verify, Verify, Verify

    14:26 - If You See Something, Say Something

    - FTC Website: reportfraud.ftc.gov

    15:32 - Reach Out

    15:54 - Wrap Up & Outro

    - www.social-engineer.com

    - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

    Find us online

    - Chris Hadnagy

    - Twitter: @humanhacker

    - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy
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    16 mins
  • Ep. 251 - Security Awareness Series - Butchering The Pig Butchers with Josh Bown Rachel Jones

    Ep. 251 - Security Awareness Series - Butchering The Pig Butchers with Josh Bown Rachel Jones
    Mar 18 2024

    Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris will be talking with Josh Brown and Rachel Jones, both from the Department of Homeland Security. They join us to discuss what Pig Butchering scams are and how we can protect ourselves. [March 18, 2024]

    00:00 - Intro

    00:18 - Intro Links:

    - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

    - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

    - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

    - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

    - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

    - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

    - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

    02:13 - Josh Brown & Rachel Jones Intro

    02:52 - Why the Secret Service?

    03:44 - Pig Butchering

    05:47 - A Global Issue

    06:40 - Same Scam, New Method

    09:14 - The 12 Steps

    13:53 - Pseudo Anonymous

    15:13 - Point of Origin

    15:38 - Real Money, Fake Return

    18:33 - Making it Right!

    19:46 - Call Your Local Agent

    21:35 - Don't Know, Don't Answer

    25:27 - Walk the Dog

    27:44 - It Needs to Make Sense

    29:58 - What’s Next?

    31:25 - Global Concerns

    34:30 - Book Recommendations

    - The Total Money Makeover- Dave Ramsey

    - Tracers in the Dark - Andy Greenberg

    36:34 - Online Links

    - Website: www.secretservice.gov

    - Website: www.usajobs.gov

    - Email: CFTFSC@usss.dhs.gov

    37:50 - Wrap Up & Outro

    - www.social-engineer.com

    - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
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    38 mins
  • Ep. 250 - Human Element Series - Rationalize Minimalize and Project with Agent Brad Beeler

    Ep. 250 - Human Element Series - Rationalize Minimalize and Project with Agent Brad Beeler
    Mar 11 2024
    Today we are joined by Agent Brad Beeler. Assistant to the Special Agent in Charge Brad Beeler has been with the United States Secret Service for the past 25 years. He currently serves as instructor and Secret Service liaison at the National Center for Credibility Assessment (NCCA) at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. Over the past 8 years in this role, he has trained agents throughout the federal law enforcement and intelligence community in credibility assessment and elicitation techniques. Prior to arriving at NCCA, he was a polygraph examiner in the Chicago and St. Louis Field Offices and served on the permanent protection detail of former President George HW Bush and numerous foreign heads of state. Over the past 17 years as a federal polygraph examiner Special Agent Beeler has secured hundreds of confessions on high-profile investigations, often leading to the identification of previously unknown victims of serial offenders of both child exploitation and homicide investigations. Agent Beeler holds a master’s degree in criminology and was previously selected as the U.S. Secret Service - Special Agent of the Year for his involvement in combating crimes against children. Widely considered a communications expert in the U.S. federal law enforcement community, Agent Beeler has provided countless domestic and international presentations to law enforcement and intelligence agencies seeking to enhance their interviewing programs. [March 11, 2024] 00:00 - Intro 00:21 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:05 - Agent Brad Beeler Intro 05:05 - Part of a Team 07:58 - One of Lincoln's Final Acts 08:52 - Dual Mission 11:45 - The Broadband Effect 14:38 - Team Effort 17:35 - Worst of the Worst 21:13 - Common Ground 23:36 - Letting Them Be Heard 25:51 - Lyrics, Songs and Dance 28:49 - Mental Health Mandates 35:11 - Mentors - Mrs. Bertran - Teacher - Brian Leary - DHS Program Manager 37:21 - Book Recommendations - The Interrogator - Hanns Scharff - Spy the Lie - Philip Houston - Captivate & Cues - Vanessa Van Edwards 39:24 - Find Agent Brad Beeler online - Website: www.usajobs.gov - Website: www.secretservice.gov - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/bradbeeler1865/ 40:47 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
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    42 mins
  • Ep. 249 - The Doctor Is In Series - Irrational Fears vs Phobias

    Ep. 249 - The Doctor Is In Series - Irrational Fears vs Phobias
    Mar 4 2024
    Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology. In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing Irrational Fears & Phobias. They will talk about the similarities, the differences, why some are necessary and how to overcome the ones that aren’t. [March 4, 2024] 00:00 - Intro 00:21 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 00:50 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 04:55 - The Topic of the Day: Irrational Fears & Phobias 05:09 - Fear vs Phobia 06:33 - Attack of the Lizard People 08:57 - Fear of the Dark 11:28 - In the Heights 13:54 - Might As Well Jump 15:32 - Flight Mode 17:04 - Send in the Clowns 17:32 - Phobias! We Mean It 19:18 - Genetics Squared 21:06 - Beware the Ladybug! 24:35 - Was it a Bunny? 26:09 - Classical Conditioning 27:10 - Little Albert 29:51 - Fear Factor 32:11 - Animal Intuition 33:40 - Mister Ed 34:50 - Fur Babies 36:01 - Learned Response 38:21 - Changing Minds 42:05 - Safety First! 43:21 - Virtual Assistant 44:55 - Words Matter 47:21 - Next Month: David Matsumoto 48:07 - Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrAbbieofficial - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a - Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial - Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy References: De Jongh, A., Muris, P., ter Horst, G., Van Zuuren, F., Schoenmakers, N., & Makkes, P. (1999). One-session cognitive treatment of dental phobia: Preparing dental phobics for treatment by restructuring negative cognitions. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 37(S1), S89-S100. Dilger, S., Straube, T., Mentzel, H. J., Fitzek, C., Reichenbach, J. R., Hecht, H., ... & Miltner, W. H. (2003). Brain activation to phobia-related pictures in spider phobic humans: An event-related functional magnetic resonance imaging study. Neuroscience Letters, 348(1), 29-32. Hettema, J. M., Neale, M. C., & Kendler, K. S. (2001). A review and meta-analysis of the genetic epidemiology of anxiety disorders. American Journal of Psychiatry, 158(10), 1568-1578. Kendler, K. S., Myers, J., & Prescott, C. A. (2002). The etiology of phobias: An evaluation of the stress-diathesis model. Archives of General Psychiatry, 59(3), 242-248. Lacey, C., Frampton, C., & Beaglehole, B. (2022). oVRcome – Self-guided virtual reality for specific phobias: A randomised controlled trial. Australian & New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry, 000486742211107. https://doi.org/10.1177/00048674221110779 Mineka, S., & Zinbarg, R. (2006). A contemporary learning theory perspective on the etiology of anxiety disorders: It's not what you thought it was. American Psychologist, 61(1), 10-26. Ollendick, T. H., Ost, L. G., Reuterskiöld, L., Costa, N., Cederlund, R., Sirbu, C., ... & Jarrett, M. A. (2009). One-session treatment of specific phobias in youth: A randomized clinical trial in the United States and Sweden. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 77(3), 504-516. Rauch, S. L., Whalen, P. J., Shin, L. M., McInerney, S. C., Macklin, M. L., Lasko, N. B., ... & Pitman, R. K. (2000). Exaggerated amygdala response to masked facial stimuli in posttraumatic stress disorder: A functional MRI study. Biological Psychiatry, 47(9), 769-776. University of York. (2023, February 6). Facing fears in just three hours of therapy could resolve phobias in children. Retrieved from https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2023/research/facing-fears-phobias-children/
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    49 mins