In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa lean into the question behind the title What to Feel (WTF) because lately both meanings apply. When the world keeps throwing curveballs, it is hard to know whether to rage, cry, laugh, or shut down entirely. Together they talk about the emotional whiplash of this past year, the grief beneath our anger, and how to keep hope alive when it feels like everything is unraveling. It is a conversation about empathy, resilience, and remembering that however you feel right now, it is okay. You're not alone!

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In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari get real about power and the many ways it shows up in everyday life. They talk about the difference between power that controls, power that tries to help but sometimes misses the mark, and power that is shared and lifts everyone. Along the way they share what this looks like in their own lives, in coaching, and in community. They also name the quieter kinds of power that often go unseen, like supporting someone from behind or holding space so another voice can shine. This is an honest and practical conversation about rethinking power and noticing how our choices can open up more connection and possibility.

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In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa talk about the small but powerful difference between reacting and responding. They share where this shows up in their own lives as moms, caregivers, partners, and friends, and how easy it is to either blow up or shut down when emotions take over. They offer simple practices that help create a little space before we act, like naming what we are feeling, breathing, or even finding humor in the moment. This conversation is about being gentler with ourselves, showing up more clearly for the people we love, and remembering that even one pause can change the whole tone of a relationship.

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Some stories are too powerful to stay untold. In this compelling conversation, Kari and Lisa are joined by memoir and business book ghostwriter Jenny Nesbit—a spiritual life coach and visionary who believes that when women tell the truth about their lives, they not only heal themselves but help others feel less alone. From surviving domestic abuse to helping others reclaim their voice, Jenny shares why storytelling is a radical act of sovereignty, connection, and transformation. Together, they explore the deep personal and professional power of writing your story, challenge the myth that some voices don't matter, and invite listeners to consider where their own truth is ready to be spoken.

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What does it look like to face life's hardest battles twice—and still come out laughing, leading, and lifting others? In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa sit down with Amy Spence: mom, marathon runner, master transformation coach, and two-time breast cancer survivor. Amy shares her journey with raw honesty and humor, from the moments that tested her to the strategies that helped her rise up stronger. She talks about creating her Rise Up System, launching the Bad Boobie Club podcast, and finding joy in a new normal. This is a conversation about resilience, healing, and connection—and a reminder that none of us have to walk through challenges alone.

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Maya Angelou's challenge is simple but piercing: "Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better." In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa unpack what it really means to live by those words—in parenting, caregiving, politics, justice, and how we treat our planet. From unlearning old assumptions about children and loved ones, to confronting the gap between awareness and accountability in our culture, they explore how "knowing better" must push us past comfort into responsibility. Grace for the past matters, but so does courage for the present. This conversation is both a mirror and a call to action: where in your own life are you being asked to do better?

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Dehumanization has become the cheap currency of politics, media, and even casual talk—and it's leaving us more divided than ever. In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari look at how words and labels strip people of dignity, whether it's whole communities cast as threats or the double standards baked into our justice and political systems. They don't shy away from naming the hard stuff—how fear gets manufactured and weaponized against immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, urban neighborhoods, even teachers and neighbors. But they don't stay stuck in outrage either. Instead, they point us back to something truer: at the end of the day, every human being wants safety, health, and belonging. Moving forward means refusing caricatures, rejecting fear-mongering, and daring to rehumanize one another.

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In headlines and hearings, we still see the same pattern play out: women brave enough to tell the truth are met with skepticism, hostility, or outright dismissal. That disbelief doesn't just silence—it revictimizes, forcing survivors through systems built to malign and exhaust them, while convictions remain rare. No wonder so many choose silence, carrying fear and shame instead of justice. In this episode of The Things We Know, Lisa and Kari dig into why our culture clings to doubt, and what must shift if women's voices are ever to be truly heard.

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