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WhaTheFlok?! “Cult Survival Stories”

By: Hoyt Richards & Chele Roland
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  • Cultic relationships are EVERYWHERE! We’ve all been affected at some point by a controlling or abusive group or person, and Hoyt and Chele are the perfect examples of what it means to go from “victim to survivor to thriver.” Our hosts were both leaders in their different, but equally destructive cults, and between them, they have 37 years worth of harrowing tales and vantage points. Not only will they bring on experts and courageous guests to share their own cult survival stories, but they will be peeling back all the messy layers, to expose the underbelly of how cults use indoctrination. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/whatheflok/support
    Hoyt Richards & Chele Roland
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Episodes
  • After Hours Edition | The Right Alice Part 1
    Jun 8 2024

    Well, the WTF crew has been gone for a minute due to all of the lawsuits against the ICOC/ICC cult that Chele was in. In this episode, Chele and Justine discuss these particular lawsuits, which are all based on rampant sexual abuse (of mostly minors) and failure to report and systemic cover-ups within both iterations of the cult. Even after the law team has received over 2000 phone calls of abuse from survivors of these two cults, it’s interesting to note that both the ICOC and the ICC have used similar (and unGodly) deception tactics—First, they claimed to be shocked and appalled, then after that didn’t work they pretended to care, and now they are fighting the lawsuits by claiming “time statute” issues. At NO point have they acknowledged one single victim, given one apology, or behaved as Jesus commands—clearly showing that they only care about preserving their organization, and not the victims.


    This is similar to how all religious organizations and cults try to deny and refuse to take any responsibility when abuse is exposed. Part of the anatomy of a cult is to victim shame and blame and vilify anyone holding them accountable, and claim they are being persecuted. The ICOC and the ICC continue to prove that they are willing to destroy innocent souls to protect themselves. But we have a funny feeling that the real God of this universe is not done with them yet.

    #IGotOut #FreeFromICOC


    Visit our website at https://whatheflok.com


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    Executive Producers:

    Chele Roland, Hoyt Richards and Katheryne KTEE Thomas


    Production Partners:

    In Ohm Entertainment and Floating Downstream Inc.

    http://inohment.com


    Theme song: “Get Me Through the Night,” provided by JES and Intonenation Records

    http://OfficialJES.com and http://intonenationrecords.com


    Director & Editor:

    Katheryne KTEE Thomas


    Additional Sound Editing and Re-Recording Mixer:

    Richard Robson


    Website:

    Melissa McKeehan


    *The opinions and observations expressed on any WhaTheFlok recordings, channels, social media platforms and website do not reflect any official position or viewpoint of the podcast. Our guests and experts are simply exercising their right to freedom of speech and sharing personal opinions, based on their own individual experiences and/or formal training. None of the opinions or experiences shared are meant to offend or malign any individuals, organizations, businesses, or religions.


    --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/whatheflok/support
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    58 mins
  • After Hours Edition | What About the Leprechauns?!
    Nov 3 2022

    Whaaat?…Did the ICOC even claim to be saving leprechauns in India?!! Well, listen in to find out!! ☘️ Welcome to the second part of the conversation about the ICOC pyramid and how it was used to control and micromanage every single thought and action of its members. But here in part 2, Chele & Nixie discuss how the leadership structure was weaponized & mobilized to deploy the rules and regulations of the ICOC cult—Which masqueraded as the only true church of disciples on the planet. Yep, if you don’t go to the ICOC, sorry to tell you—according to them, you are Hell bound.

    So, just how did this cult convince its over 150,000 die-hard members that their only job on earth was to go out and make other disciples and bring them into the ICOC so that they could be saved and go to heaven?! Well, the short answer is through the leadership—who claimed that the Bible was their rulebook—but in reality, it was the leaders functioning as Wizard of Oz type characters, hiding behind a curtain of ego, fear, and manipulation. Which was deeply damaging because we never knew who the “enemy” was. The people we were supposed to trust the most, were actually the ones carrying out or fostering the abuse.

    And a special shout out to Dr. Edith Eger’s podcast on Super Soul called ”The Choice,” as she shares about her experience in the Auschwitz concentration camp.

    Dr. Eger says the only workable thing about the type of abuse she endured in the concentration camp is that she always knew who the enemy was. She knew who she was fighting. We thought that was a profound comment, as most of the ICOC defectors struggled with identifying all the insidious ways that they were spiritually, mentally, emotionally, physically, (and some sexually) abused, until many years later.

    I highly recommend Dr. Edith Eger’s podcast on Super Soul titled The Choice, listening to it humbled me and changed me! Thank you Dr. Eger!

    #IGotOut #FreeFromICOC

    Visit our website at https://whatheflok.com

    Follow us on Social:

    Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@whatheflok

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/whatheflok

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/whatheflok

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/WhaTheFlok

    Youtube - http://hyperurl.co/a1615r

    Executive Producers:

    Chele Roland, Hoyt Richards and Katheryne KTEE Thomas

    Production Partners:

    In Ohm Entertainment and Floating Downstream Inc.

    http://inohment.com

    Theme song: “Get Me Through the Night,” provided by JES and Intonenation Records

    http://OfficialJES.com and http://intonenationrecords.com

    Director & Editor:

    Katheryne KTEE Thomas

    Additional Sound Editing and Re-Recording Mixer:

    Tom Fritze

    Website and Graphics:

    Melissa McKeehan and Mike McKeehan

    *The opinions and observations expressed on any WhaTheFlok recordings, channels, social media platforms and website do not reflect any official position or viewpoint of the podcast. Our guests and experts are simply exercising their right to freedom of speech and sharing personal opinions, based on their own individual experiences and/or formal training. None of the opinions or experiences shared are meant to offend or malign any individuals, organizations, businesses, or religions.

    --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/whatheflok/support
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    51 mins
  • After Hours Edition |The ICOC Pyramid$
    Oct 26 2022

    In the next several After Hours episodes, Chele and Nixie are focusing on the group they escaped from, the ICOC. Chele felt it was important to take a deep dive into the control & mobilization structure of the cult, which the ICOC called a “discipleship tree.” It’s not by accident that even religious statisticians labeled the ICOC as the ‘fastest growing church in the world’ for three years in a row.

    There is a reason the ICOC, which masqueraded as a church, was able to accomplish this:

    Looking back, it’s easy to now identify this structure as an insidious pyramid scheme, designed to micromanage and manipulate every thought and move (and finances) of its members. This pyramid helps to explain how the ICOC was so effective at controlling every single member. You see, in becoming a member of this group, EVERYONE was assigned a handler, which they called a “discipler.” The discipler was initially explained as a spiritual mentor and helper, but nothing could be further from the truth. And it didn’t end there, as you went up the discipleship tree (pyramid), the groups were divided, and then subdivided, and then subdivided more. To a point where everybody always knew what everybody else was doing, and would report each other, if anyone thought there was sin or dissent. The members also had to get permission and ask advice on even the smallest aspects of their lives, and weren’t able to make any personal decisions on their own. Supposedly, the Bible was the rule book—but it was simply a game of “Fear & Consequence,” and the leaders of the ICOC played it masterfully. Chele breaks down the disturbing ecosystem of this cult, and we think this is a fascinating episode.

    #IGotOut #FreeFromICOC


    Visit our website at https://whatheflok.com


    Follow us on Social:

    Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@whatheflok

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/whatheflok

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/whatheflok

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/WhaTheFlok

    Youtube - http://hyperurl.co/a1615r


    Executive Producers:

    Chele Roland, Hoyt Richards and Katheryne KTEE Thomas

    Production Partners:

    In Ohm Entertainment and Floating Downstream Inc.

    http://inohment.com

    Theme song: “Get Me Through the Night,” provided by JES and Intonenation Records

    http://OfficialJES.com and http://intonenationrecords.com

    Director & Editor:

    Katheryne KTEE Thomas

    Additional Sound Editing and Re-Recording Mixer:

    Tom Fritze

    Website and Graphics:

    Melissa McKeehan and Mike McKeehan


    *The opinions and observations expressed on any WhaTheFlok recordings, channels, social media platforms and website do not reflect any official position or viewpoint of the podcast. Our guests and experts are simply exercising their right to freedom of speech and sharing personal opinions, based on their own individual experiences and/or formal training. None of the opinions or experiences shared are meant to offend or malign any individuals, organizations, businesses, or religions.

    --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/whatheflok/support
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    54 mins

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