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In a perfect world, all parents would be prepared to welcome news of a queer child with love and affirmation. As we all know, we aren’t there yet, and sometimes one parent is ready to do what has been shown to be best practices while another isn’t. Good and loving parents often have some learning and unlearning to do, and it can be challenging when parents aren’t on the same page. In today’s episode, guest host Wendy VonSosen visits with special guests Brooke Caldwell, Lisa Dame, and Julia Bernards about what to do when parents disagree.

Special Guest: Brooke Caldwell

With a background in education and administration, Brooke now works in the commercial real estate industry. She was an early member of the Mama Dragons group. Brooke loves sushi, soccer, traveling, and advocating for the LGBTQ+ community and other marginalized groups. She's a social justice warrior and loves big.

Special Guest: Julia Bernards

Julia is a licensed marriage and family therapist, researcher, writer, presenter, and mother. Three of her four children identify as LGBTQ+, and she passionately loves, accepts, and supports them. Julia's PhD research focused on LDS parents’ process in coming to accept a transgender child. Through that research, Julia was immersed in many families’ sacred stories, and she is dedicated to sharing their words and the understandings that came from them. She has given presentations around the country and loves working with LGBTQ+ individuals and their families in therapy.

Special Guest: Lisa Dame

Lisa has been an ally for the LGBTQ+ community starting in 2013 when her oldest daughter officially came out. She joined Mama Dragons in 2014 and found her own support and friendship among women with similar life journeys. She has been on the Board of Mama Dragons for the last 7 years, which continues to be a sustaining part of her advocacy. In 2020, Lisa decided to go back to school to become a Clinical Mental Health Counselor and joined Flourish Therapy as an intern in 2021 and then became an employee as an Associate therapist in 2022. She currently enjoys her life of seeing clients, walking her dog, spending time with family and being outside in nature through hiking, playing sports and gardening.

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