President Joe Biden made not one, but two major gaffes at NATO this week, accidently calling Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy ‘Putin’ before correcting himself and later referring to his Vice President Kamala Harris as ‘Trump’ without realising.

As former president Barack Obama and senior Democrat Nancy Pelosi were reported to have spoken about their “concerns” over Biden, could the plot to push him out of the White House succeed before the month is out?

Camilla and Kamal discuss the international fall out with US editor Tony Diver.

Plus Ian Acheson, former prison governor and author of Screwed – Britain's Prison Crisis and How to Escape It, joins the podcast to explain the challanges Labour face in tackling the prison crisis as thousands of prisoners are set to be released early to avoid ‘total breakdown of law and order’ - and what are the cultural sacred cows you'd like to slaughter?

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Oasis? Derivative and dire: 14 cultural ‘sacred cows’ that are actually terrible

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