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The Unusual Suspects with Kenya Barris and Malcolm Gladwell

By: Kenya Barris, Malcolm Gladwell
Narrated by: Kenya Barris, Malcolm Gladwell, Ron Howard, Anderson .Paak, David Sedaris, Amy Sherald, Walter Isaacson, Rich Roll, Coleman Hughes, Chelsea Handler
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Two curious minds. One rule: no small talk.

Kenya Barris and Malcolm Gladwell bypass the pleasantries and promotional banter to deliver raw, unfiltered conversations with some of the most extraordinary and influential people alive. Oscar-winning directors, Grammy-winning musicians, Fortune 500 CEOs, iconic artists, world-class athletes, and thinkers who are helping reshape how we see the world.

Every conversation digs into the pivotal moments that defined each guest's path—the doubts, the turning points, and the questions they seek to answer.

Barris, the award-winning writer, producer, and showrunner, and Gladwell, the New York Times bestselling journalist, don’t settle for the rehearsed answer – they stay until the real story breaks through.

Pull back the curtain on the world's most fascinating figures one unusually honest conversation at a time.

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  • Trailer: The Unusual Suspects with Kenya Barris and Malcolm Gladwell Season 2

    Trailer: The Unusual Suspects with Kenya Barris and Malcolm Gladwell Season 2
    Sep 11 2026

    Kenya Barris and Malcolm Gladwell bypass pleasantries and promotional banter to deliver raw, unfiltered conversations with some of today's most influential and fascinating figures. Featuring two seasons of titans spanning every corner of culture—from Oscar-winning directors and Grammy-winning musicians to trailblazing Fortune 500 CEOs and iconic artists—The Unusual Suspects with Kenya Barris & Malcolm Gladwell gives listeners rare access to the minds of the world's most extraordinary individuals and the pivotal moments that defined their paths to greatness.

    Season 2 is here now—listen to both seasons today.
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  • Ron Howard

    Ron Howard
    Sep 10 2026
    Malcolm Gladwell and Kenya Barris kick off the season with Ron Howard, legendary Hollywood actor turned Oscar-winning director with over 800 IMDb credits and the stories to prove it. They deep dive into Ron’s beginnings in the industry at just 4 years old, his desire to shift behind the camera, and his ability to stay relevant at every turn of Hollywood’s tumultuous history. Ron fully lives up to his “nicest guy in Hollywood” reputation and leaves them not just with keys to navigating the industry, but keys to living a happy, productive life.
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  • Anderson .Paak

    Anderson .Paak
    Sep 10 2026
    Malcolm Gladwell and Kenya Barris speak with the soulful Anderson .Paak, eight-time Grammy-winning musician and one of the most lauded drummers alive today. They discuss Anderson’s turbulent childhood and his initial struggle breaking into the industry, including his stint with homelessness and believing he’d never get signed. They talk about the moment Dre took him on, his partnership with Bruno Mars, working with all of his OG heroes, and how fatherhood has driven him in every step of his career.
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    54 mins
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The Unusual Suspects with Kenya Barris and Malcolm Gladwell Season 2

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I started to listening in the beginning of my morning workout, and could not stop listening, I avoid talking to people so I can continue listening, Kenya and Malcolm were extremely entertaining I truly enjoyed how they both include themselves into the questions they would ask, I can’t wait to share this with my daughter’s and friends.

Finding self

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It was all good because the two hosts are different with similar in many ways. They felt at ease about sharing details of their lives.

The honesty of the guests. They felt comfortable

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Engaging conversations with remarkable people. Uplifting, inspiring, poignant, I finished all 8 episodes in two days and I hope there will be another season.

Wes Moore and Ursula Burns

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The interviews were great. Always good questions for the guests. Funny and thought provoking. I just wish there was more!!!

Always interesting and engaging

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This is a great podcast! Direct to the point and the co-hosts are outstanding and vulnerable while allowing their guests to shine in their own way.

Ray and Nephew

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