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Dancing With Depression

Dancing With Depression

De: Adam Turner
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Welcome to Dancing With Depression. This is a podcast dedicated to opening up the conversation about mental health, focusing specifically on depression. I was diagnosed with depression in 2015. I've realized how crucial it is to talk openly about this topic, breaking its stigma. Like taboo subjects such as income, politics, or religion, depression should not be off-limits. Through sharing my journey, from my upbringing to my personal experiences and moments of vulnerability, I aim to convey that it's okay to feel this way. We are not alone, and most importantly, we did nothing wrong. Depression doesn't confine itself to a specific upbringing, socio-economic status, or background. I hope my stories encourage others to share their own experiences, highlighting how depression affects not just individuals but their loved ones as well. Every day with depression is different for me. Some days, it's a mild waltz; other days, it can start with a tap dance, shift into a Salsa, and by noon, I’m a Ballet dancer – leaping, bending, lifting (the weight of my depression), and balancing myself on the tips of my toes all while spinning rapidly. I invite you to join me as we navigate the complex dance with depression together, all while striving to Take The Lead!© 2025 Adam Turner Higiene y Vida Saludable Psicología Psicología y Salud Mental
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  • The Question I Couldn't Answer
    Nov 14 2025
    Welcome back to another episode of Dancing with Depression. I'm your host, Adam Turner. And in today's episode, you're going to hear a voice that might be new to you, but one I first heard around September, 1975. It's a voice that started softly, full of encouragement, support, and love. But as I found my own voice over the years, hers had to get little louder to be heard, often times having to remind me that wisdom, which she had, came from experiences which I hadn't yet had. And if by chance she didn't have a previous experience to draw from, her go-to was, because I said so, and until you start paying the bills, that's all you need to know.Think you know who it is? Well, if you haven't figured it out yet, today's special guest is my mom, who we'll hear from momentarily.So how did we get here? Well, when I started opening up about my depression, I found reflection to be an integral part of better understanding why I was feeling the way I was. How time and experiences were bringing old memories and emotions into sharper focus. That was true for me, and as I've learned, it was also true for my mom.The conversation between my mother and me actually started in the most ordinary way possible. I was at a routine doctor's appointment. My doctor was going through the standard list of questions — my family history of cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure — and then came the one about anxiety or depression or any other mental health diagnosis.That's when it hit me. I didn't know the answer. So, before I left the parking lot, I called my mom. Thought it was gonna be a quick conversation, just to ask if we had any history of depression or if she'd ever taken medication for it, so I could update the doctor during my next visit.But that one simple question opened the door to a much deeper discussion about how she viewed her mental health decades ago and how time and reflection have given her a new understanding of what she was going through back then.So without further ado, let's get into it. A heartfelt, honest conversation between mother and son._______________________________________________ Adam Turner (00:01)Hi, Mom.Alan (00:02)Hi, Adam.Adam Turner (00:04)⁓ you're so nice now that we're recording. That's so lovely. ⁓ Are you ready for this?Alan (00:07)Thank you.Yes, Adam.Adam Turner (00:17)Okay, so we were talking the other day and I was asking you a question about specifically depression, mental health and so on. And you started to answer and then kind of went back. Can you share just a little bit about what you were thinking about when I was asking you that?Alan (00:28)Yes.I don't remember. You were asking me about what again?Adam Turner (00:47)if you had taken any medication specifically for depression.Alan (00:50)⁓Yeah. Well, I think I told you that I had been on something that the doctor prescribed. And at the time, I didn't think I was depressed. And I told him that. But ⁓ he apparently must have thought I was or something was going on.And now that I look back on it, I think I was at some point not depressed enough to want to do myself any harm, but there were certain things going on in my life at the time. And I think that's kind of what was causing it, going kind of...Adam Turner (01:46)Mm-hmm.Alan (01:48)crazy.Adam Turner (01:50)So, I know you've had a lot of things, different things that it could be, but do you remember specifically what was going on around that time?Alan (02:00)Well,I'm thinking that some of the things that were going on was your father and I were having some difficult times. ⁓ I thought, I really thought our 13th wedding anniversary was going to be it.⁓ he, I don't remember exactly some of the things, but he moved out of the house. ⁓ we had some properties that we owned right across the street from where we lived. And he said he needed to.do that. And I, you know, I didn't really understand at the time. And he went over and he stayed out in one of the empty apartments that was across the street. And you know, he was right across the street. So wasn't like if I needed him, he was, you know, he was within reach. But it still made me feel really bad.I says, what did I do? I don't know what I did. I know there was things going on and we went for ⁓ marriage counseling.And we had been to marriage counseling probably about four times at least within our, not all at that time, but kind of throughout.Adam Turner (03:54)Mm-hmm.Alan (04:00)One of the times we went to marriage constantly was to a rabbi.And he was, he was, I thought he was really wonderful. I don't know, I'm not sure what your father thought, but I think he liked him. And we, like I said, we had gone a few different times and each time we went, things seemed to be okay for a while.And I think what the turning point for me was.When I got sick, when I got really sick in 2009.Adam Turner (04:45)Sick with what?Alan (04:46)the multiple myeloma.I knew then that your father was going to be by my side. Sorry.He ...
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  • From Drowning to Dancing – My Return to Work
    Nov 7 2025
    Welcome to the Dancing With Depression podcast, I am your grateful host – Adam Turner. As mentioned in the last episode, I am going to share what returning to work was like after being away for 60 days! I will share what changed, what stayed the same, how I felt the night before & what actually happened when I logged back into work at 9 a.m.The reason for my 60 day “staycation” was due to what I can only describe as drowning. I was overwhelmed with work, marriage, my inability to figure out what life was – dare I say “my purpose”. I was asking myself questions that, not only could I not answer, but I was having a difficult time comprehending where the questions were coming from. Having to remind myself that 9 months earlier, I stopped taking my prescribed by a professional medication for anxiety & depression – cold turkey! So for years I hadn’t really addressed my concerns…like what was I going to do for a living over the next 15-20 years? I didn’t want to remain in sales, I hadn’t wanted to be in sales for over 10 years!!! I knew this wasn’t uncommon as many of my high school & college friends had pivoted to different careers…most of them sharing the challenges, but grateful for their decision.So after trying to do things “my way” and it not working, I was looking for help. That help came by way of my therapist & psychiatrist. I filled out the paperwork and submitted my short term disability claim…the next morning I called my then boss and shared that I would be out of work, I would send him an email with accounts that needed to be contacted, & let him know if there was anything he needed I would do my best to get it for him.My original thought was I’d be out for like 2 weeks, in that time I would “reset” – get caught up…whatever that meant. I didn’t have a plan…the only “plan” I had was to try my absolute best not to think about, worry about anything work related. I had ruined plenty of vacations in the past with the need/desire to stay connected – as if I was so important (thought is laughable now).I spent the better half of the first 10 days doing absolutely nothing…I had all the time in the world and a “honey do” list with painting, cleaning the garage, changing light bulbs, just to name a few – yet nothing was checked off. I did manage to fill out the paperwork to partake in group therapy…but even after I was accepted – I had to wait another week before I could start. I’m not sure where it came from but I was able to get a little momentum and cross a few things off that never ending honey do list.So I attended group therapy, learned about CBT & DBT – went through a couple of ADHD meds in order to find something that helped me concentrate…and after 15 sessions I said my goodbyes and headed into the weekend preparing myself for “The Ultimate Comeback”.I was surprisingly calm leading up to my return – I wasn’t spending a lot of time wondering what would happen, and put my focus on reassuring myself that whatever did happen I would know how to OR find a way to get through it. It’s NOT that I wasn’t nervous or concerned..I just realized, my previous pattern would be me using a lot of energy worrying about what might happen, and not having enough energy to deal with what ACTUALLY happened. Yeah that was a valuable nugget of insight I picked up in group!!!Since I hadn’t been real good at disconnecting in the past coupled with never being away from work for that length of time, I was curious about how people would react – would I still remember my passwords (I have like 10 of them for different systems), and just overall what had changed while away. The 1st day really didn’t feel any different, from a 30,000 ft. view – we had the same meetings scheduled, same sales projections had to be submitted – now when I took a closer look there were several noticeable differences…Some people were no longer with the company, many of my accounts had been reassigned, and oh how could I forget this – I CAME BACK TO A NEW MANAGER!!! As I so eloquently put it when asked to describe my 1st day back…a lot of things changed and at the same time nothing had changed.Over the next few days I had a couple challenges with my anxiety and depression, but with the teachings Hopeway provided along with group therapy I came back with a few tools in my belt I didn’t have in the past – and they worked beautifully.For those preparing to transition back into work…my 1st recommendation is take it one day or a couple of hours at a time. Putting all of your energy into trying to stop what you think might happen vs. using a small percentage of energy directly at what is actually happening will get you so much further. Do you feel like I’m making that “easier than it sounds”? Well that is what I would have thought, before learning those tools I mentioned earlier – and you can do the same!I have to remind myself that ...
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  • The Group I Didn't Know I Needed
    Oct 2 2025
    Welcome back to another episode of Dancing with Depression. I'm Adam. And today I want to talk about something I never thought I would talk about. Group therapy. Or as I said at the time, group therapy. OK. So let me rewind just a little bit. On July 22nd, I felt like I was drowning at work. Now, I'm sure we've all felt overwhelmed before. You know, that feeling of spinning your wheels, crossing one thing off of your to-do list, only to have three more things show up. But this felt different. Everyday responsibilities, mounting stress, and the weight of trying to hold it all together, it just became too much. And I couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. The next day, July 23rd. I found myself sitting with my psychiatrist and after that conversation, I made the decision that I've never made before. I submitted a claim for short-term disability. I didn't fully understand what that even meant or what came next. I didn't fully understand what that meant or even what came next. I just knew one thing for sure. The way I was living wasn't working. My hope was that some time away from work might just help me catch my breath. You know, maybe reset. How? I had no clue. I just knew I couldn't keep going the way I was. As I started planning what time away would look like, both my psychiatrist and therapist suggested something I hadn't even considered. A mental health clinic. Now that was definitely not part of my plan. Mostly because let's be honest, I didn't have one. So I did what most of us do when we're unsure of something. I did a Google search. And it was like I was choosing a restaurant while on vacation. And I went straight to the reviews. The clinic that had been recommended had received a 3.6 out of five stars, with 113 reviews, which I felt was a significant amount to gauge what kind of facility this would be. Now, I don't know about you, but I tend to jump straight to the bad reviews so that one, I could determine if it was worth going any further. But I also, think, was subconsciously building my exit strategy as to why this wouldn't be a good fit. But I read probably 10 different reviews. And I realized that there wasn't anything that consistently stood out. There were some challenges I'm sure people experience, but they seem to be very isolated. And many of them were about the food not being that great. That's. Wasn't going to be strong enough for me to to say no. And. I always remind myself that especially when you're reading other people's experiences and reviews that there's always two sides to every story and the truth usually lands somewhere in between. So I decided to move on and check out the website, learn a little bit more about the different programs that they had to offer. And I read they had three options. The first one was residential. The second one was PHP. And the third one was IOP. So the website breaks down what each of those programs consist of and Essentially, the residential program is that of what it sounds. You're living on their facility, which happens to be in 30 minutes away from where I am. But you're there for 30 days and you are in full day group therapy. You have weekly psychiatrist and therapist sessions, and then they have weekend activities like yoga or journaling or ARP. The second option was PHP, which is partial hospitalization. Again, you're going to their facility. It's a structured day, so you're there from 9 o'clock in the morning till 4 in the afternoon, Monday through Friday. But you go home. And the third option is IOP, which is intensive outpatient. It's much more flexible. I learned later on that a lot of people step down and kind of use the IOP to transition from a residential program into kind of going back into their normal routine. The way I viewed IOP was I could still be at home and that was what was comfortable for me. My initial reaction with regards to residential was no way. And the funny part was I said to myself, I'm not mentally ready for residential. Yeah, not mentally ready for mental health treatment. Sounds ridiculous, but this is also the same guy that admitted that he stopped taking all of his medications cold turkey. So. That's where I was at. I landed on IOP. As I mentioned, it felt like the safest choice. I could be in my own home and honestly. I didn't go in with big expectations or goals on what I was hoping to get from therapy, I just knew that I had to do something. And like everything within the medical or healthcare systems, there was forms that I had to fill out. There was screenings and evaluations to ensure that I could benefit from the program. And eventually I did end up getting the call that I had been accepted and I was scheduled to start August 15th at 9 a.m. In the days leading up to that, my mind was racing and asking questions like, is this really happening? Is this going to help me? How did I even get here? But first day came and those questions shifted from curiosity to a full on panic....
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