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Dancing With Depression

Dancing With Depression

De: Adam Turner
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Welcome to Dancing With Depression. This is a podcast dedicated to opening up the conversation about mental health, focusing specifically on depression. I was diagnosed with depression in 2015. I've realized how crucial it is to talk openly about this topic, breaking its stigma. Like taboo subjects such as income, politics, or religion, depression should not be off-limits. Through sharing my journey, from my upbringing to my personal experiences and moments of vulnerability, I aim to convey that it's okay to feel this way. We are not alone, and most importantly, we did nothing wrong. Depression doesn't confine itself to a specific upbringing, socio-economic status, or background. I hope my stories encourage others to share their own experiences, highlighting how depression affects not just individuals but their loved ones as well. Every day with depression is different for me. Some days, it's a mild waltz; other days, it can start with a tap dance, shift into a Salsa, and by noon, I’m a Ballet dancer – leaping, bending, lifting (the weight of my depression), and balancing myself on the tips of my toes all while spinning rapidly. I invite you to join me as we navigate the complex dance with depression together, all while striving to Take The Lead!© 2025 Adam Turner Higiene y Vida Saludable Psicología Psicología y Salud Mental
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  • Unexpected Darkness, Then a Healing She Didn’t Think Existed — Katie’s Journey

    Unexpected Darkness, Then a Healing She Didn’t Think Existed — Katie’s Journey
    Nov 27 2025
    Welcome back to another episode of the Dancing With Depression podcast. I’m your host, Adam Turner, and today I get to share a conversation with someone I met during a pivotal time in both of our lives.Katie and I crossed paths completely by chance. She was finishing her time in the residential program at HopeWay, and I had just started Intensive Outpatient Therapy. The odds of us ever meeting were slim—almost like lightning striking twice in the exact same spot. Yet here we are. Group therapy gave us the chance to learn pieces of each other’s stories, and in doing so, we developed a genuine respect for one another’s openness. There’s something almost surreal about hopping on a Zoom call with people you’ve never met, only to find yourself forming a quick, unexpected connection.Katie is a mother, a wife, a sister, a daughter, and a talented photographer. But what makes her story so impactful is the depth and honesty with which she shares her experience with anxiety—how she first recognized it, how it shaped her life, and how it eventually contributed to depression. Her story is one many people will recognize, even if the circumstances differ.What I appreciate most about Katie is that she shares her journey not for attention, but to help others feel seen, supported, and empowered. From the day I met her, she’s been an advocate for helping people find the courage—and the resources—they need to take that next, and often first, step toward healing. So it wasn’t a surprise that she agreed to join me on the podcast, but I was genuinely excited for this conversation. You’ll understand why once you hear how openly and thoughtfully Katie reflects on one of her most vulnerable experiences.I’m grateful she trusted me with her story to share with you.“Now, let’s hear from Katie herself, as she opens up about her journey, what she learned, and how taking care of herself became the first step to being there for the people she loves.”-----------------------------------------------------Adam Turner (00:01)Hi, Katie. Katie (00:03)Hi, Adam. I'm doing a pretty good today. I'm recovering from a cold, but other than that, ⁓ I'm doing pretty good. Adam Turner (00:04)How are ya? Good, you sound great. It's great to see you. It's been a little while, yeah, yeah. So I'm glad we got a chance to get together. ⁓ Obviously, you know, we met in probably a way that we probably never thought we would have met. ⁓ And, you know, got a chance to get to know each other a little bit through sharing and processing and so on. But ⁓ I wanted to have you come and Katie (00:15)Yes, about a month or two. Sure. Adam Turner (00:41)share a little bit of your experience, your journey, certainly just kind of reconnect and ⁓ see if we can't help some other folks through their journey as well. Does that sound good? Katie (00:57)Yeah, that sounds great, Adam. I'm excited to share. Adam Turner (00:59)Awesome. So again, as I mentioned, you know how we met, but I want to first start off with like where things started for you ⁓ on your journey and what that looked like. Where do you have a time like where you remember kind of like first feeling of either feeling off or something just wasn't the norm? Katie (01:24)Sure. Yeah, so I guess it was around this time last year. I just started noticing that I was a little bit more achy, was having some trouble sleeping. ⁓ Little things would stress me out here and there. ⁓ I kind of did what I call like a medical tour of different doctors saying like, just, feel kind of off, ⁓ you know, and we ran a bunch of tests and all of them are coming back pretty, pretty normal. ⁓ And so Christmas came around and we celebrated the holidays with my family. And then come January, you know, I was looking around and thinking life's, life's pretty good right now. ⁓ And then one night I went to bed and I could not sleep. ⁓ And one night turned into three nights turned into eight nights. And when I could sleep after that here and there, I would just continue to wake up with what I thought were heart palpitations. I didn't know if it was something hormonal. And I would wake up in the middle of the night and just lay on my kitchen floor and hope that it would stop. ⁓ And now what I'm coming to know that those actually were were panic attacks. And I would have them each night throughout my sleep. They're actually, ⁓ they're called nocturnal panic attacks. And they are really difficult because nothing brings them on. ⁓ And there's not a lot you can do in the middle of the night to make them go away. And they just come one after another. ⁓ So after that, I started, ⁓ you know, seeing a therapist, started seeing a psychiatrist trying to figure out what this might be. And I initially started on, you know, low dose SSRIs and another medication. And I just, I felt kind of out of it. ⁓ So I still thought maybe there's some kind of psychological piece to this that...
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  • Practical Skills for Everyday Mental Health

    Practical Skills for Everyday Mental Health
    Nov 21 2025
    The Dancing With Depression Podcast is brought to you by KazCM, where CM stands for content matters. Because content brings people together.Welcome to the Dancing with Depression podcast. I'm your grateful host, Adam Turner. In this episode, I'm sharing some of the tools I learned during my time in group therapy. And how I was able to put them into practice almost immediately. These tools changed the way I thought, felt, and handled everyday challenges that not too long ago felt completely overwhelming.The best part, I actually noticed a difference. And just to be clear, I didn't Google my way through managing depression. These tools came from trained professionals. One of the first things we did was process. That means talking through what's been weighing on you, noticing how it's affecting your thoughts and emotions and working together to make sense of it.You lead the pace. And the goal is to increase awareness and strengthen your ability to cope. But once you process what's next, that is exactly what we're diving into today. I'm grateful to be joined by Darby Danko, a licensed clinical social worker. I've only known Darby a short time with the knowledge, clarity, and compassion she brings to her work.[00:01:56] Already made a meaningful impact on me. I deeply respect her expertise, and I'm grateful she's here to share some of it with all of us. Darby walks us through the basics of cognitive behavioral therapy, referred to as CBT and Dialectical Behavior Therapy, DBT, what they are, how they work. Why they can become powerful tools for managing depression, anxiety, and those emotional ups and downs so many of us struggle with.[00:02:37] If you've ever wondered what these therapies look like in real life, or how to actually use them to start living again, this episode is a great place to begin. Let's take the next step together and bring Darby into the conversation._______________________________________________Adam Turner: So joining me today is Darby Danko. She is a licensed clinical social worker and she is going to be joining us and sharing with us some information on some of the tools that she taught me related to CBT and DBT, and we'll talk a little bit more about that 'cause some of the jargon.[00:03:21] But welcome, welcome, welcome. How are ya? [00:03:24] Darby Danko: Thank you, Adam. I'm good. It's so good to see you and excited to be here with you. [00:03:29] Adam Turner: Awesome. So good to see you too. It's an interesting situation, like I think people after we talk will think, oh, we've known each other for so long, but I think we knew each other for about, uh, I don't know, 65 days.[00:03:41] Does that sound about right? [00:03:43] Darby Danko: That sounds about right. [00:03:45] Adam Turner: So glad that you know, we get an opportunity to really firsthand see what it is that you do, and then I get an opportunity to share with you how helpful it was because coming into the situation, I really genuinely had no idea what to expect, what was gonna happen, and also the different dynamics behind it, right?[00:04:10] Because. You have a group of people. Right. Can you tell me a little bit about what that's like, having somebody new come in to a group setting and, and what you are trying to do in that particular situation? [00:04:27] Darby Danko: Yeah, absolutely. So group therapy is actually something that I have such a, a deep respect for and I truly, truly love.[00:04:34] So we have folks come in, of course, it's a whole new group of people. Lots of new faces, especially within, we do groups on campus and virtually, but you're stepping in in a really vulnerable time in your life with a lot of other people that you have never met. So really, my first goal is to give a warm welcome as we have folks come in and really just acknowledge the anxiety that comes with starting something new and then helping to create a sense of warmth and connection and a welcome, and that's always been what I prioritize on the front.[00:05:04] So. [00:05:06] Adam Turner: I kept hearing these initials, C-B-T-D-B-T, and I saw your face light up 'cause you know the value. But for those that aren't familiar with it, what could you say, like a brief explanation, high level of, of what those are and, and maybe even how they differentiate from each other. [00:05:30] Darby Danko: Yeah, absolutely, and you are far from alone.[00:05:33] Oftentimes in therapy speak. There are so many acronyms for everything, but I'll tell you a little bit about each of them. CCBT stands for cognitive behavioral Therapy. And really the, the premise of CBT is looking at how our thoughts, our feelings, and our behaviors are all interconnected, right? So how I'm thinking impacts how I'm feeling, how I'm feeling impacts my behaviors and so forth.[00:05:58] I mean, so really the goals with c Bt high level are to be able to first acknowledge right, our thinking patterns, then to be able to question them. And then lastly, kind of that next ...
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  • The Question I Couldn't Answer

    The Question I Couldn't Answer
    Nov 14 2025
    Welcome back to another episode of Dancing with Depression. I'm your host, Adam Turner. And in today's episode, you're going to hear a voice that might be new to you, but one I first heard around September, 1975. It's a voice that started softly, full of encouragement, support, and love. But as I found my own voice over the years, hers had to get little louder to be heard, often times having to remind me that wisdom, which she had, came from experiences which I hadn't yet had. And if by chance she didn't have a previous experience to draw from, her go-to was, because I said so, and until you start paying the bills, that's all you need to know.Think you know who it is? Well, if you haven't figured it out yet, today's special guest is my mom, who we'll hear from momentarily.So how did we get here? Well, when I started opening up about my depression, I found reflection to be an integral part of better understanding why I was feeling the way I was. How time and experiences were bringing old memories and emotions into sharper focus. That was true for me, and as I've learned, it was also true for my mom.The conversation between my mother and me actually started in the most ordinary way possible. I was at a routine doctor's appointment. My doctor was going through the standard list of questions — my family history of cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure — and then came the one about anxiety or depression or any other mental health diagnosis.That's when it hit me. I didn't know the answer. So, before I left the parking lot, I called my mom. Thought it was gonna be a quick conversation, just to ask if we had any history of depression or if she'd ever taken medication for it, so I could update the doctor during my next visit.But that one simple question opened the door to a much deeper discussion about how she viewed her mental health decades ago and how time and reflection have given her a new understanding of what she was going through back then.So without further ado, let's get into it. A heartfelt, honest conversation between mother and son._______________________________________________ Adam Turner (00:01)Hi, Mom.Alan (00:02)Hi, Adam.Adam Turner (00:04)⁓ you're so nice now that we're recording. That's so lovely. ⁓ Are you ready for this?Alan (00:07)Thank you.Yes, Adam.Adam Turner (00:17)Okay, so we were talking the other day and I was asking you a question about specifically depression, mental health and so on. And you started to answer and then kind of went back. Can you share just a little bit about what you were thinking about when I was asking you that?Alan (00:28)Yes.I don't remember. You were asking me about what again?Adam Turner (00:47)if you had taken any medication specifically for depression.Alan (00:50)⁓Yeah. Well, I think I told you that I had been on something that the doctor prescribed. And at the time, I didn't think I was depressed. And I told him that. But ⁓ he apparently must have thought I was or something was going on.And now that I look back on it, I think I was at some point not depressed enough to want to do myself any harm, but there were certain things going on in my life at the time. And I think that's kind of what was causing it, going kind of...Adam Turner (01:46)Mm-hmm.Alan (01:48)crazy.Adam Turner (01:50)So, I know you've had a lot of things, different things that it could be, but do you remember specifically what was going on around that time?Alan (02:00)Well,I'm thinking that some of the things that were going on was your father and I were having some difficult times. ⁓ I thought, I really thought our 13th wedding anniversary was going to be it.⁓ he, I don't remember exactly some of the things, but he moved out of the house. ⁓ we had some properties that we owned right across the street from where we lived. And he said he needed to.do that. And I, you know, I didn't really understand at the time. And he went over and he stayed out in one of the empty apartments that was across the street. And you know, he was right across the street. So wasn't like if I needed him, he was, you know, he was within reach. But it still made me feel really bad.I says, what did I do? I don't know what I did. I know there was things going on and we went for ⁓ marriage counseling.And we had been to marriage counseling probably about four times at least within our, not all at that time, but kind of throughout.Adam Turner (03:54)Mm-hmm.Alan (04:00)One of the times we went to marriage constantly was to a rabbi.And he was, he was, I thought he was really wonderful. I don't know, I'm not sure what your father thought, but I think he liked him. And we, like I said, we had gone a few different times and each time we went, things seemed to be okay for a while.And I think what the turning point for me was.When I got sick, when I got really sick in 2009.Adam Turner (04:45)Sick with what?Alan (04:46)the multiple myeloma.I knew then that your father was going to be by my side. Sorry.He ...
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