Episodios

  • Committable Conversations: AOT and the Cult of True Belief
    Jul 14 2026

    In this episode Committable Collective members Jesse Mangan and Leah Harris discuss Leah’s recent article, ‘Assisted Outpatient Treatment’ and the Cult of True Belief. The article examines narratives around Involuntary Outpatient Commitments and how much of the discourse around these policies seems to be driven by an ideology that prioritizes belief over evidence.

    Links to articles discussed in this episode:

    ‘Assisted Outpatient Treatment’ and the Cult of True Belief: https://substack.com/home/post/p-200647780

    Response to Fuller Torrey: https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/10/response-to-fuller-torrey/

    Links to interview and presentation excerpts used in this episode:

    AOT Evaluation: What Providers, Communities, and Data Evaluation Professionals Should Know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pyhydRQC6w

    What People Get Wrong About Anosognosia-Dr. Xavier Amador: https://youtu.be/oZfh-oPJ99g?si=cHaZB147sBKu_6Tx

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    42 m
  • AOT Research: Steadman et al. 2001
    Jul 10 2026
    In this episode Committable producers Jesse Mangan and Jim McQuaid look at Steadman et al. 2001, a Randomized Controlled Trial evaluating the outcomes of an Involuntary Outpatient Commitments (also called AOT) pilot program at Bellevue hospital. Short answer, this study found that IOC is not associated with any significant benefits. Longer answer, the IOC court order may actually have been associated with worse outcomes for some people. Steadman et al. 2001: https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ps.52.3.330
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    22 m
  • AOT Addendum: Eric Smith
    Jul 6 2026

    In this episode Committable producers Jesse Mangan and Jim McQuaid follow up on their review of the Swartz et al. 1999 study and discuss some of the ways in which the findings of that study are misrepresented. They focus on claims made by AOT advocate Eric Smith and how narratives and talking points can become intermingled with perceptions of research.

    Audio clips used in this episode come from the following interviews:

    https://sensiblenonsense.squarespace.com/committable/2021/10/7/bonus-eric-smith-amp-tom-burns

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiHqzqRj14A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atzkOcYC14g

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    16 m
  • AOT Research: Swartz et al. 1999
    Jun 26 2026
    In this episode Committable producers Jesse Mangan and Jim McQuaid look at Swartz et al. 1999, a Randomized Controlled Trial evaluating whether or not Involuntary Outpatient Commitments (also called AOT) can reduce hospitalization. Short answer, this study found that the Involuntary Outpatient Commitment court order is not associated with a reduction in hospitalizations. Longer answer, then researchers decided to do some questionable things with the data and made some really problematic proclamations. Swartz et al. 1999: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10588412/
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    45 m
  • AOT: Elizabeth Rich
    Feb 8 2026

    In this episode I speak with attorney Elizabeth Rich about her experiences navigating mental health laws in Wisconsin. Elizabeth brings a multifaceted perspective to her work weaving together experience as an attorney, an advocate, and as a parent of someone who was directly impacted by these systems.

    Andrew’s V.O.I.C.E: www.andrewsvoice.org

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    51 m
  • Peer Respites: Jason Robison
    Jan 31 2026

    In this series I look at Peer Respites throughout the United States and try to better understand how this model of care provides safe, noncarceral opportunities for people experiencing distress. And in this episode I speak with Jason Robison, Chief Program Officer for SHARE! The Self-Help and Recovery Exchange. We talk about the SHARE! Recovery Retreat, as well as a broader discussion about Jason’s approach to peer support and how to cultivate more humanity while navigating complex systems.

    SHARE!: https://www.shareselfhelp.org/

    Jason Robison: https://www.shareselfhelp.org/copy-of-lara-skutt-coo-chro

    Recovery Retreat: https://www.shareselfhelp.org/recovery-retreat

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    44 m
  • AOT: Forcewashing
    Jan 21 2026

    In this episode I reunite with Leah Harris to talk about the concept of Forcewashing, a term that Leah coined in an article about an Involuntary Outpatient Commitment bill currently being considered in Massachusetts.

    Leah Harris: https://truthout.org/articles/massachusetts-advocates-resist-dystopian-involuntary-outpatient-commitment-bill/

    E. Fuller Torrey Interview: youtube.com/watch?si=DPAuc_viybzgY4ur&v=7A8xgpYV46o&feature=youtu.be

    Jeffrey Lieberman Quote: https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/22/jeffrey-lieberman-calls-nick-reiner-facilities-scams/

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    33 m
  • AOT: Disablement Based on the Perception of Disability
    Dec 27 2025

    In this episode I speak with Fern, Director of the Wild Ivy Social Justice Network. We talk about concerns related to an involuntary outpatient commitment bill currently before the Massachusetts legislature, as well as some of the non-carceral alternatives that currently exist in that state.

    Wild Ivy Social Justice Network: https://wildfloweralliance.org/wild-ivy/

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    35 m