In this episode of the Sober Butterfly podcast, host Nadine Mulvina interviews Kathy, a dedicated member of several 12-step programs including Alcoholics Anonymous, Al-Anon, Debtors Anonymous, and Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous. Kathy opens up about her experiences with substance use and addiction, her tumultuous family background, and the journey to sobriety and recovery. Her story highlights the importance of anonymity, the impact of support systems, and the transformative power of these programs. The episode also touches on the concept of addiction transference and the holistic nature of recovery, offering listeners a profound and relatable perspective on tackling various forms of addiction.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:41 Kathy's Early Life and Family Struggles

03:53 Discovering Al-Anon and the Start of Recovery

06:23 Journey Through Multiple Anonymous Programs

11:00 Personal Struggles and Turning Points

19:47 First Year of Sobriety and Challenges

28:31 Personal Loss and Early Recovery Challenges

28:45 Learning to Follow the Steps

29:39 Self-Diagnosis and External Influences

31:05 Introduction to Debtors Anonymous

33:38 Tools and Practices in Debtors Anonymous

43:19 Exploring Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous

45:54 Overcoming Deep-Seated Trauma

51:31 Advice for Seeking Help

56:32 Conclusion and Contact Information

If you or someone you know is struggling with substance use or addiction, know that you are not alone and that help is available. Here are some resources for support:

• Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): aa.org
• Al-Anon Family Groups: al-anon.org
• Adult Children of Alcoholics (ACOA): adultchildren.org
• Debtors Anonymous (DA): debtorsanonymous.org
• Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous (SLAA): slaafws.org

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