“Walls don't always look like what you think they do. Sometimes walls look like a no. Sometimes walls look like a oh heck no (...) and sometimes walls just look like we haven't been able to imagine it a different way (...) But once you start getting more familiar with walls, you start recognizing which kind you're finding. And then once you understand why the wall is there, you know exactly what to pick at in order to test it, challenge it, and then you can change it or pull it down.”

In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Laura Miller. Laura is the founder and CEO of NextGen Ethics, where she focuses on advancing ethical AI innovation and public trust. She is also a respected philosophy and ethics instructor at Webster University. Her contributions to tech ethics have earned her recognition from NASA, NIST, and the US State Department, and is also the author of the upcoming book "AI Ethics in Action." She tells the story of her philosophy professor running into a wall and shows how ethics runs into walls and how AI does too. They talk about whether or not AI can be like a human, whether AI only learns from humans or humans might also learn from AI, and how we need to be intentional about how we develop AI.

Listen to this episode to dive deeper into the ethics and philosophical questions behind the development and use of AI, and learn a lot about running into walls, or breaking them, in the process!

Notes

* Learn more about Laura’s work here

* Connect with Laura on LinkedIn

* Find Laura on Instagram, X, YouTube and Spotify as ‘VoiceofAIEthics’

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Buy Julienne’s book here

In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.

In this episode they discuss the 'business of story' after their discussion with Park Howel from The Business of Story in Episode #97

Park Howel's website

Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at
narativ.com
EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com
LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc
TWITTER @narativ

Buy Julienne’s book here

"Why does this one work? And why is this one an utter failure? Well, it turned out this one actually had a story structure of set up, problem, and resolution to it, and told a story intuitively"

In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Park Howell, who is known as the world's most industrious storyteller, having grown purpose-driven brands by as much as 600%. He's an Emmy Award-winning 35+ year veteran of the advertising industry, and hosts the popular weekly Business of Story podcast. He is also the author of Brand Bewitchery and co-authored The Narrative Gym for Business. After telling Jerome and Julienne about how his career in marketing and his son’s studies brought him to storytelling, Jerome then asks Park to explain how his storytelling method works. However, instead of explaining it to them, Park decides to walk them through it by creating a story about this podcast. He uses the ABT method he developed, proving that storytelling works.

This episode is not just a conversation; it's a practical masterclass in storytelling. Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from a master storyteller!

Notes

* Learn more about Park here

* Listen to Park’s podcast here

* Find Park’s book here

* Visit the Business of Story website here

Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at
narativ.com
EMAIL Jerome@narativ.com
LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-inc
TWITTER @narativ

Buy Julienne’s book here