This episode explores the teaching challenges and rewards of Executive Doctorate or DBA (Doctorate of Business Administration) programmes. Executive Doctorate / DBA students may be pursuing a move to academia - in which case the task for their professors is to make them better teachers by adding a research component to their practitioner expertise. Alternatively they may be seeking the research component to supplement and deepen their existing expertise, in which case the teacher's role is to help develop already good managers and executives into better ones.

We explore the power of fostering a community of practice within DBA programs, the importance of using a cohort model for the teaching phase, and the challenges of matching professors with students in terms of their experience and expertise during the dissertation or project phase. This calls for different skills from the teachers and a willingness from both learners and teachers to share strengths and reveal weaknesses - all in the pursuit of learning, developing and tackling real world problems.

Our guests have years of experience supporting expert practitioners in organisations to challenge their thinking and approaches through evidence based management practices. They share their experiences and teaching methods, including advice for the next steps that could take teachers or learners to the next stage.

Host:

Karen Plum

Guests:

• Denise Rousseau, H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University, Pennsylvania, USA
• Lars Mathiassen - GRA Eminent Scholar, Regents Professor, Computer Information Systems, Center for Digital Innovation, J. Mack Robinson College of Business, Georgia State University
• Jo-Louise Huq - Assistant Professor (Teaching), University of Calgary, Cumming School of Medicine | Community Health Sciences, Haskayne School of Business |Entrepreneurship and Innovation Haskayne University Calgary
• Doug Gilbert - College of Management and Human Potential, Walden University, Minneapolis, Minnesota

Mentions:

• Center for Evidence-Based Management
• CEBMa Teachers Network
• Executive DBA Council (EDBAC)
• EDBAC Engaged Management Review
• Engaged Management Scholarship Conference - Henley-on-Thames 5-7 September 2024

Teaching evidence-based management to executive students (those who are already experienced managers within organisations) requires a different approach to the teaching of students at undergraduate level.

With executive students, we are presented with people who have seen it all, done it all, and have certainly got the scars on their backs to prove it. These people carry the weight of organizational experience and preconceived notions from management trends they've tried, with varying degrees of success. So armed with examples and a rich understanding of IO psychology, it's the educator's job to help students rise above the noise of past practices, and engage these pragmatic learners in an ultimately liberating approach to evidence-based decision-making.

The guests share their experiences and approaches when teaching executive students - blending academic rigor with the nitty-gritty of the business world. They also talk about how they personally judge the success of their teaching methods and share some advice to those thinking of taking the plunge with executive students, including a warm invitation to contact the Center for Evidence-Based Management!


Host:
Karen Plum

Guests:

• Eric Barends, Managing Director of the Center for Evidence-Based Management
• Preston Davis, Assistant Professor of Management, Coles College, Kennesaw State University, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
• Dr Gary Latham, Professor of Organizational Psychology, Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto, Canada
• Neil Walshe, Associate Professor of Organizational Psychology, School of Management, University of San Francisco, California , USA

Mentions:

Center for Evidence-Based Management

CEBMa Teachers Network

CEBMa’s Online Course Modules

Dr Gary Latham's book: Becoming the Evidence-Based Manager - Making the Science of Management Work for You

Organizational Dynamics Journal - edited by Dr Gary Latham

In this introduction to the podcast, step into the groundbreaking realm of Evidence-Based Management (EBM) with us as we chart its evolution from the influential Evidence-Based Medicine movement. Eric Berends, Denise Rousseau, Rob Briner and Jeffrey Pfeffer dissect the persistent gap between knowledge and application that hampers both healthcare and corporate landscapes. This episode promises an enlightening journey through the complex process of making data-driven decisions in management, highlighting the untapped potential of research in guiding business practices and the critical role of educators in narrowing this divide.

Unlock the secrets to enhancing decision-making in the corporate world through the lens of reflective learning and the power of diverse experiences. Professor Denise Rousseau's experiment with change management students reveals profound insights into the educational process and the importance of a holistic problem-solving approach. We confront the puzzling resistance to adopting EBM in academia, probing into who holds the reins of responsibility for elevating managerial decision-making. This exploration is not only thought-provoking but a call to action for educators and institutions to arm future leaders with the evidence-based toolkit necessary for navigating the ever-changing business terrain.

Navigating the academic sphere presents its unique challenges and opportunities in disseminating EBM principles. Hear from our guests as they advocate for a skillful blend of technical mastery and a curious, respectful mindset among graduates aiming to employ evidence-based approaches in their careers. Discover the tactical strategies educators can implement to weave EBM into curricula, starting small and dreaming big, while also contemplating the intrinsic merit of scientific evidence in organizational contexts. As Rob Briner urges educators to ponder their contribution to this field, we invite you to join us in a conversation that's not just about imparting knowledge but transforming the very fabric of management education.

Host:
Karen Plum

Guests:

• Denise Rousseau, H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University, Pennsylvania, USA
• Rob Briner, Professor of Organisational Psychology, Queen Mary University of London
• Eric Barends, Managing Director of the Center for Evidence-Based Management
• Jeffrey Pfeffer, Thomas D. Dee II Professor of Organizational Behavior at Stanford University's Graduate School of Business

Mentions:
Center for Evidence-Based Management

CEBMa Teachers Network

CEBMa’s Online Course Modules

This episode continues our discussion about teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates (listen to Part 1 if you haven't already!).

We discuss how to ensure that the next generation of managers is not just well-versed with the theories, but also equipped to make evidence-based decisions in the real-world, developing the skills they need to challenge the current way of doing things (with humility!). We bring together experienced teachers from renowned universities like Tilburg, Colorado College, James Madison, Carnegie Mellon and KU Leuven, to uncover the strategies and challenges in teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates.

Our guests share their experience of using pre and post-tests to measure the effectiveness of teaching and how to create an aspiration among students to continue using evidence-based practices beyond their education - tapping into the ways in which they already use multiple sources of evidence. We discover that an evidence-based approach is giving students a framework for navigating the often overwhelming amount of information, facts and truths available to them - helping to combat the increasing level of uncertainty and ambiguity they otherwise face in the world.

Join us as we unravel the complex world of teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates, filled with practical tips, expert advice, and much more.

Host:
Karen Plum

Guests:

• Brigitte Kroon, Associate Professor of Human Resource Studies, Tilburg University, Netherlands
• Christina Rader, Associate Professor with Tenure, Department of Economics and Business at Colorado College, Colorado, USA
• David Peterson, Associate Professor of Management, James Madison University, Virginia, USA
• Denise Rousseau, H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University, Pennsylvania, USA
• Jeroen Stouten, Professor of Organizational Psychology, KU Leuven, Belgium & CEBMa Scientific Director
• Rob Briner, Professor of Organisational Psychology, Queen Mary University of London

Mentions:
Eric Barends, Managing Director of the Center for Evidence-Based Management

CEBMa Teachers Network

CEBMa’s Online Course Modules

Ever wonder how we can elevate the management process with a more evidence-based approach? Brace yourself for a riveting conversation that provides tangible strategies to enhance management teaching at the undergraduate level. Our guests share their rich insights on the challenges and benefits of teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates. Listen as we dive into the importance of critical thinking, problem-solving skills, and bridging the gap between research and practice.

But we're not stopping there. The second half of our conversation pushes the envelope even further, drawing a line from the classroom to the real world of human resource management. Our guests peel back the layers of teaching evidence-based consulting, revealing the blend of theory, evidence, and practical application involved. This episode promises a rich mix of academia and real-world application that will leave you with a refreshed perspective on teaching evidence-based management.

Host:
Karen Plum

Guests:

• Brigitte Kroon, Associate Professor of Human Resource Studies, Tilburg University, Netherlands
• Christina Rader, Associate Professor with Tenure, Department of Economics and Business at Colorado College, Colorado, USA
• David Peterson, Associate Professor of Management, James Madison University, Virginia, USA
• Denise Rousseau, H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University, Pennsylvania, USA
• Jeroen Stouten, Professor of Organizational Psychology, KU Leuven, Belgium & CEBMa Scientific Director

Mentions:
Center for Evidence-Based Management

CEBMa Teachers Network

CEBMa’s Online Course Modules

Evidence-based management is a critical skill for people working in organisations. More and more people are taking courses and starting to practice better decision making by looking at multiple sources of evidence - not just their own experience.

The Center for Evidence-Based Management leads the way in teaching, training and practicing best practice methods. Training is available for those wanting to improve their evidence-based management skills, and there is a Teachers Network for those who teach (elements of) evidence-based management. Here we share ideas about learning, insights on best practices, and teaching materials that teachers can use in their classes.

This podcast is for educators who are currently teaching evidence based management, or who are are thinking of taking the plunge!

We talk to people who teach this approach to different groups – from under graduates to executives – and share their experiences, tips and techniques – what works and what doesn’t, for each kind of learner.

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