Hanley Effect, Hanley Foundation's podcast, is back with the CEO of Hanley Foundation, Dr. Rachel Docekal, and Hanley's Chief of Research and Innovation, Dr. John Dyben!

In this episode, we are also joined by Jerry Moe, MA., an infectiously passionate advocate for children impacted by addiction, to discuss his remarkable journey and the incredibly pivotal work that he is doing with Sesame Street. Jerry is the Senior Clinical Advisor at National Association for Children Impacted by Addiction (NACoA). He is the National Director of Children's Programs, Emeritus, at Hazelden Betty Ford. Jerry is an author, speaker, and consultant on issues for children and families hurt by addiction. Jerry's work is featured in the PBS documentary Lost Childhood and has contributed to Emmy Award-winning programs on both Nickelodeon and PBS's Sesame Street.

Jerry opens up about his personal experiences growing up in a family with a history of alcoholism, sharing how he navigated his own struggles while witnessing his parents find recovery. His story reflects the importance of healing early on, as he emphasizes the need for support and guidance for children facing similar challenges.

We also dive into Jerry's impactful work on Sesame Street, on which he collaborates with a dedicated team to create resources aimed at helping children understand and cope with the complexities of addiction. Jerry illustrates how these concepts can empower young minds with a focus on the "7 Cs" (principles that guide children in recognizing and caring for themselves while dealing with familial struggles).

Jerry reveals how, via engaging activities and compassionate storytelling the team creates safe spaces for children to express their feelings and understand that addiction is a disease, not a personal failing. As he shares heartfelt anecdotes from his experiences, it becomes clear that the goal is to educate children and help families heal and build healthier legacies.

Tune in to hear Jerry's inspiring insights and learn how you can support children navigating the challenges of addiction in their lives. This episode is truly a testament to the resilience of families and the transformative power of empathy and understanding!

In This Episode:

[02:12] - Learn how Jerry struggled with alcoholism in his family but found recovery and support in programs.

[05:49] - Mark Twain emphasized the importance of understanding one's purpose in life.

[06:40] - Jerry respects Sesame Street for addressing children's trauma and advocating for affected families.

[09:47] - Jerry discusses how the Seven Cs guide kids' healing, emphasizing self-care and healthy choices for recovery.

[11:07] - Jerry aimed to create a child-centered program for families impacted by addiction and healing.

[14:43] - Jerry emphasizes reframing addiction discussions to separate the disease from the loved ones affected.

[16:58] - Hear how children enthusiastically engage with the concepts of treatment and recovery to combat addiction.

[18:57] - Jerry wants to prevent children from experiencing addiction trauma by promoting early healing.

[21:02] - Jerry calls attention to a flawed statistic about kids living with addiction, noting that reality shows an even higher prevalence.

[23:12] - Kids often understand more about their surroundings than adults realize; communication should be careful.

[25:00] - Jerry notes that children often share feelings in programs, using age-appropriate explanations about addiction.

[28:07] - Trauma leads kids to blame themselves, but shifting the narrative can spark healing and realization.

[30:59] - Jerry touches upon double standards in treatment and argues that connections between moms and kids improve recovery.

[34:21] - Rachel discusses a new program for women and children, addressing treatment's stigma and impact.

[35:06] - Stigma keeps people sick.

[38:29] - How can we combat stigma?

Links and Resources:

Hanley Foundation's Child-Centered Family Program

844-502-4673

Sesame Workshop - Remember the 7 Cs!

Welcome back to The Hanley Effect, Hanley Foundation’s podcast, with CEO, Dr. Rachel Docekal and Hanley’s Chief of Research and Innovation, Dr. John Dyben.

In this episode, we explore the complex relationship between mental health and addiction. We tackle the pressing issue of mental health stigma in today’s society, despite the increasing openness around these discussions. John shares a powerful analogy about casseroles, illustrating how society readily supports physical ailments but often shies away from offering the same kindness to those facing mental health challenges.

We have a deep discussion regarding the necessity of treating mental health conditions alongside addiction, highlighting the importance of a holistic, empathetic approach. John provides insights into the unique treatment programs at Hanley, where the environment is intentionally designed to promote dignity and healing. We also discuss the alarming rise of psychosis linked to high doses of THC, underscoring the critical need for public awareness and education about the realities of substance use.

You can expect to gain a nuanced understanding of the interconnectedness of mental health and addiction, as well as the vital importance of compassionate care. If you’re interested in mental health, addiction recovery, or simply want to learn more about supporting loved ones in their journey, then this episode is definitely a must-listen for you!

In This Episode:

[02:35] - John acknowledges increasing discussions about mental health, but stigma around severe conditions persists.

[05:51] - The environment in mental health programs affects perceptions of worth and dignity for patients.

[06:45] - Rachel reveals that Hanley has two campuses, one open to the public and another with beautiful treatment pavilions.

[09:36] - Many addiction treatment clients also face co-occurring mental health disorders that require simultaneous treatment.

[11:20] - John explains that comprehensive treatment considers individuals as whole people, including their mental, physical, and spiritual aspects.

[13:54] - Effective mental health care involves evidence-based therapies, medication, and a dignified living environment.

[16:42] - We learn that Hanley’s mental health program emphasizes a holistic approach, including high-quality, organic food.

[19:07] - Rachel raises concerns about marijuana as a gateway drug, especially due to high THC levels today.

[21:36] - John recalls seeing psychotic breaks in young adults due to high-frequency and high-dosage THC use.

[24:15] - Accurate information about marijuana and its effects on mental health is essential for public awareness.

[27:01] - Potential clients begin treatment at Hanley through an assessment process via phone calls with case managers.

Links and Resources:

Hanley Foundation - Website

844-502-4673

Welcome, everyone, to Hanley Effect, a podcast in association with Hanley Foundation. Whether it's recovering from addiction, trauma, mental health challenges or any other life obstacles, this podcast is your safe space for inspiration, guidance, and real stories of triumph!

CEO of Hanley Foundation, Dr. Rachel Docekal, as well as Hanley’s Chief of Research and Innovation, Dr. John Dyben, discuss the complexities of addiction and how it affects not just individuals but also entire families and communities, spanning across generations.

Rachel kicks things off by shedding light on how Hanley has innovated treatment specifically for older adults, addressing the unique challenges that they face in recovery. You’ll hear about the importance of creating a safe space where people from the same generation can connect, empathize, and heal together, emphasizing just how important that it is to tailor treatment approaches to meet the specific needs of different age groups.

Dr. Dyben also examines the science of addiction and how it’s more than just a disease of the brain. He shares his journey from seminary school to becoming a leader in addiction treatment, and we talk about the parallels between the fight against AIDS and the battle against addiction - how societal change and innovation are crucial to making real progress.

We also touch on some of the groundbreaking research happening at Hanley, with the aim being to shift how we as a society treat and understand addiction. Dr. Dyben's insights into trauma, family dynamics, and the broader implications of addiction are truly eye-opening, and Rachel’s enthusiasm for the future of behavioral health is inspiring to say the least.

Buckle up for a conversation that’s as informative as it is inspiring. We talk about tangible solutions for tangible problems and how, together, we can create a world free of addiction! Until next time, keep embracing your recovery and thriving in your story!

In This Episode:

[01:02] - Rachel highlights that older adults in treatment fare better when grouped by generation because they benefit from shared backgrounds and experiences.

[03:41] - Beginning his career in church ministry, Dr. Dyben transitioned to addiction treatment and found a true calling at Hanley Foundation.

[05:41] - Hear how, fascinated by the influence of social factors on health, Dr. Dyben now leads research and innovation in addiction treatment.

[07:04] - Dr. Dyben focuses on elevating addiction treatment research to the same level as other diseases.

[10:08] - Dr. Dyben reflects on how societal changes, especially the humanization of AIDS, were crucial in advancing AIDS research and treatment.

[11:56] - Dr. Dyben describes guinea worm disease's near-eradication and its parallels with addiction treatment.

[14:58] - Cory discusses changing attitudes toward AIDS and the importance of addressing trauma in addiction.

[16:27] - Better understanding addiction reduces stigma and encourages empathy and treatment.

[17:49] - Rachel shares having refused opiates for her daughter's surgery, advocating for alternative pain management.

[19:55] - Rachel warns against unnecessary opiate prescriptions and advises proper disposal of unused medication.

[21:58] - Addiction is a neurobiological disease, affecting people beyond moral or intellectual weakness.

[24:11] - Learn how addiction impairs impulse control by reducing blood flow to the prefrontal cortex.

[26:29] - Rachel advocates for more realistic addiction portrayals and notes Hanley Foundation’s role in treatment.

Links and Resources:

Hanley Foundation - Website

844-502-4673