Two cataclysmic events have shaped Dr Lucy Hone’s relationship with grief, and resilience.

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Today in the Academy of Imperfection, we welcome Dr Lucy Hone. Dr Lucy’s work focuses on making sense of the senseless, and helping others to do the same.

As a legitimate expert in grief, resilience and wellbeing, Dr Lucy is able to blend the science with her own lived experience.

This episode explores living losses (divorce, estrangement, infertility), grief comparison, as well as the research around post-traumatic growth. Guided by questions from Dr Lucy’s latest book, How will I ever get through this?, Hugh, Josh and Ryan ask Dr Lucy why grief feels so lonely, how you are supposed to accept loss, and will you ever be happy again, amongst others.

This is a special one.

0:00 – An Unsuspecting Saturday Morning
12:11 – Grief comparison
21:25 – How am I supposed to accept this?
31:14 – How do you keep hope alive?
35:48 – Why do I feel so lonely?
50:20 – Will I ever be happy again?
56:36 – Letting the other children live
1:03:44 – Do you know your strengths?
1:09:12 – Who and what do you want to live for?
1:14:59 – Who and what is good in your world?

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🫖 Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Dr Emily - Grief Lightening - https://bit.ly/3ZPVNmO
• Dr Emily - Other People Matter - https://bit.ly/3Oku8b4
• Dr Emily - Goals For Your Goals - https://bit.ly/4rAK3AF

📖 Things to read

• How Will I Ever Get Through This by Dr Lucy Hone - https://bit.ly/4bAWO9w
• Resilient Grieving by Dr Lucy Hone - https://bit.ly/4kpkf8g
• Oscillation Grief Theory - https://bit.ly/4qZ5WK1
• Michael F. Steger - Meaning and Purpose Work - https://michaelfsteger.com
• J. William Worden - Four Tasks of Mourning - https://bit.ly/3NTGPcU

💻Things to check out

• Dr Lucy’s website - https://www.drlucyhone.com
• 3 Secrets of Resilient People TedTalk - https://bit.ly/3Zguj9S
• Dr Lucy’s ‘Look Forward To’ Calendar
• VIA Strengths test - http://bit.ly/4h2KYFJ
• Coping With Loss community on Facebook - https://bit.ly/3NTnDvT
• Welcome to Holland poem - https://bit.ly/4kgB0lH
• Will Arnett + Conan O’Brien on Grief - https://bit.ly/4a06320

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Stop. Everything. Now. It’s Claudia Karvan day.

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An icon of the screen, and of the heart, Claudia is Australian entertainment royalty.

Claudia’s life itself feels like a movie (no one else grew up in a nightclub, did they?) and it was an absolute privilege to listen to all the lessons that she has learnt along the way.

With incredible grace, Claudia talks to Hugh, Ryan and Josh about playing the long game during divorce, and how she came to the realisation that it wasn’t up to her to fix everything.

Claudia speaks openly about separating the person from the diagnosis, and how, and why, she thinks so often about death.

This is one for the highlight reel.

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🫖Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Stephen Curry - I Dug a Hole … and Found Myself - https://bit.ly/3ZpPNkN
• Hannah Ferguson - Outspoken But Not Broken - https://bit.ly/3M8SC6y

📺 Things to watch

• Love My Way - https://bit.ly/4qFCjNA
• The Secret Life of Us - https://bit.ly/3Z1Thtt
• The Queen of Versailles - https://bit.ly/3Z5FemE
• Australian Story - The Secret Life of Claudia Karvan - https://bit.ly/3ZE8p0g
• Who Do You Think You Are? with Claudia Karvan - https://bit.ly/4bIw3QL
• Bump - https://bit.ly/49O16Jv

📖 Things to read

• The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying by Sogyal Rinpoche - https://bit.ly/4k8qdtR

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Ryan’s got news.

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Well, past-Ryan had news, and now future-Ryan is going to reflect on how present-day-Ryan is currently feeling about said news. Get it? It’s reflecting on a reflection about a rejection.

Today we’re giving you two for the price of none, and bringing you two of the most memorable moments from our subscriber based show A Little More Imperfects.

With both segments focusing on wildest dreams, Hugh, Ryan and Josh explore how to navigate regret when you’re not at your best, and how to show yourself compassion and love when your dreams are, well, crushed.

Also, we ask Hugh what happened to him today.

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🫖Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• James van Cuylenburg - Love Your Wonky Bricks - https://bit.ly/457hYZA
• Ryan Shelton - Shame, Jealousy & Purpose - https://bit.ly/454PJL6
• Isaac Humphries - Coming Out on Court - https://bit.ly/4jQtxtD

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Do you believe in ghosts? Josh doesn’t, Ryan does, and Hugh is actually being haunted.

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It’s the second episode of our super sexy summer series (the alliteration is wild in this episode), and we’re revisiting the time that Hugh got haunted.

Blending together a few episodes of A Little More Imperfects, our subscriber platform that you can sign up for below, we’ll introduce you to Geraint the shamanic healer, what happened during Hugh’s ghost busting appointment, and whether Hugh has had any paranormal activity since.

And finally, whether this whole ordeal has convinced Josh that ghosts are real.

Long live summer!

0:00 – A phoenus? Draw it
4:17 – Team Josh v Team Ryan
10:28 – Meeting the shamanic healer
16:25 – The not-so-light-hearted update
30:01 – Cursed artwork: to burn or not to burn
35:46 – Has the ghost been busted?

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🫖Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Maria Ruberto - Advancing Despite Adversity - https://bit.ly/49TSktd
• Maria Ruberto - Sleep Your Way To Your Top - https://bit.ly/49jJJ2S

👻Ghost busters

• Garant

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Today, we come to you with a gift: bonus Dr Emily. Thank you in advance for the standing ovation.

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Welcoming you into the world of A Little More Imperfects, our subscriber-based platform available on Patreon and Apple Podcasts, our resident psychologist Dr Emily reaches into the reflection pond, to discuss and decode a reflection from one of our community members.

Responding to this reflection, Dr Emily chats to Ryan, Josh, and special guest Producer Bridge, about how life changing it can be to receive an ADHD diagnosis, as well as the not so joyful emotions, such as grief and anger, which can accompany this.

Josh talks about his own inner critic, which leads into a broader discussion about self-compassion, top down vs bottom up therapy, and the therapeutic benefits to showing up for your younger self as the adult you are today.

Don’t say we don’t spoil you.

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🩵Where to send in your reflections

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🫖Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Janelle Booker - Living with ADHD - https://bit.ly/4rXQIG0
• Hugh’s ADHD … brief - https://bit.ly/3MJBzb4
• Ben Crowe (Pt 1) - Meet Your Inner Fan - https://bit.ly/3KHwJdX
• Ben Crowe (Pt 2) - Now BE Your Inner Fan - https://bit.ly/49bVxnB
• James van Cuylenburg - Love Your Wonky Bricks - https://bit.ly/3MzZKZz
• What’s Your ATAR? - https://bit.ly/4pwNZBG

📺Things to watch

• The Rehearsal - https://bit.ly/48V6IA0
• Good Will Hunting - https://bit.ly/4iW7hhn
• Rick Hanson - Velcro for the Bad, Teflon for the Good - https://bit.ly/4rVpe3R

💻 Things to do

• Rick Hanson - Positive Neuroplasticity Training - https://bit.ly/48COcgN

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Little heads up, this episode contains some language that is exclusively found on the naughty list, and therefore, isn’t suitable for kids.

Now, it’s time to spill some Vulnerabili-TEA.

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It’s our annual holiday episode, and this year, with many thanks to comedian Becky Lucas, we welcome into the studio Little Drummer Girl. Who has some, um, grievances to air.

Little Drummer Girl is taking us back in the space-time-continuum to re-write history, and let us in on the scandal which surrounds the infamous lyrics ‘pa rum pum pum pum’.

All ad revenue from this episode will be donated to Becky’s chosen charity of HeartKids, who do an incredible job providing lifelong support, resources, and advocacy to the 250,000 people impacted by childhood-onset heart disease.

0:00 – Introducing the Little Drummer Girl
5:50 – The ultimate gift guide
9:51 – An original song, an original crime
15:22 – Sharing enriching information from 20 AD
25:28 – Know what you’re good at
30:20 - Hello Becky, Hello HeartKids

If you want to watch this full episode on YouTube (you really do), follow this link - https://youtu.be/oXBEij8q5Tc

🫖Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Santa Claus - A Special Vulnerabilitea House - https://bit.ly/4pDw6B8
• Mrs Claus - Santa’s Better Half - https://bit.ly/4559jpJ
• Little Boy Christmas - The Forgotten Son of Mr & Mrs Claus - https://bit.ly/4iVxGMi
• Becky Lucas - The power of laughter - https://bit.ly/3KN76Zg

💻Things to do

• Check out Becky Lucas on instagram - https://bit.ly/3N1ELil
• Check out the incredible HeartKids organisation - https://www.heartkids.org.au

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Dave Hughes has a complicated relationship with his ego.

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Performing in prestigious venues around the world, Dave Hughes has solidified himself as one of Australia’s comedy icons, but the journey was (and still is) far from easy.

Joining us in the studio today, Dave vulnerably shares how the burden of feeling unworthy affected his ability to give and receive love.

Dave chats to Ryan about how much he has struggled with comparison, both with others, and the success of his past self, and the role that ego plays in never being able to turn down an opportunity.

Hughesy, thank you so much for joining us.

0:00 – Ryan got papped, Hugh got crumpets
7:19 – The failures that lead to success
17:12 – A feeling of general greatness
21:06 – Reckoning with comparison
30:18 – The joy is in the giving
36:03 – Walking the family / work tightrope
41:07 – Humour as a way in
47:56 – You had me at IMAX helmet
56:00 – Ego doesn’t let you enjoy the moment
1:08:10 – Five strategies to let go of ego

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🫖Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode:

• Kate Langbroek - Love Story - https://bit.ly/44OH66q
• Dr Emily - Other People Matter - https://bit.ly/3MqGNZj
• Pat Cummins - Love, Loss & Life - https://bit.ly/3MtSgqX
• Cate Campbell - Even Olympians Have Depression - https://bit.ly/44TRhXp

🎄Other Xmas Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode:

• Santa Claus - A Special Vulnerabilitea House - https://bit.ly/48P0X6V
• Mrs Claus - Santa’s Better Half - https://bit.ly/44g5M7J
• Little Boy Christmas - The Forgotten Son of Mr & Mrs Claus - https://bit.ly/3KHqx5F

📖 Things to read

• A New Earth, by Eckhart Tolle - https://bit.ly/4rPfS9B

💻Things to look up

• Oprah’s series with Eckhart Tolle - https://bit.ly/48vfOo6

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We’re nervous. We’re excited. We’re nervous and excited. Because it’s Mary freaking Fowler day.

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Joining us in the Vulnerabilitea House, all the way from Manchester, Mary answers the question ‘what do you worry about the most?’

With wisdom far beyond her 22 years, Mary explains to Hugh, Ryan and Josh the impossible task of being the ‘perfect’ role model, especially when you are still growing up yourself.

And then, in a conversation that will help many, and maybe even save the life of a few, Mary graciously shares her experiences with self-harm, and why she thinks it is so important to have the heavy conversations, even with the risk of saying the wrong thing.

Mary talks about her journey with pressure and forgiveness that lead her to rediscover ‘Little Mary’, her wall of things that make her feel loved, and how she has been able to reframe her darkest times to find more empathy for others.

Mary, it was an absolute dream come true to speak with you.

0:00 – The 2023 Fairy tale
6:52 – What do you worry about most?
23:00 – Giving and taking power
34:01 – Appreciating the little things
41:01 – Saying the hard thing
56:22 – Beauty after pain
1:04:29 – Am I supposed to be here?
1:09:16 – Looking after Little Mary

if you would like to watch this full video on YouTube, follow this link: https://youtu.be/O_9Wf0WSfMM

📖Things to read;

• Bloom, by Mary Fowler - https://bit.ly/443cWw3

🚨If you, or someone you know, is thinking about suicide or self-harm, Lifeline on 13 11 14 is a great place to start. In an emergency, please call 000.

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