• The MHP Brokers Tips and Tricks Juggernaut Interview Series Podcast, with Kirby Horton

  • Jun 21 2024
  • Duración: 40 m
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The MHP Brokers Tips and Tricks Juggernaut Interview Series Podcast, with Kirby Horton

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  • In this episode of The MHP Broker’s Tips and Tricks podcast, Maxwell Baker, president of The Mobile Home Park Broker, interviewed Kirby Horton. As president and CEO of The Firm, Inc., Kirby is involved in acquiring, developing, and operating manufactured home communities. As with every Tips and Tricks Closing Cocktails podcast episode, this one is brought to you by The MHP Broker's proprietary Community Price Maximizer. Use this four-step system to get the highest price possible for your mobile home park or RV community when you sell it through The MHP Broker. Guaranteed. Call Max for details. Here Are the Show Highlights: - Kirby Horton serves as the park acquisition lead and project manager at his company, The Firm, in Franklin Tennessee. Kirby has worked deals with Max’s company. (Max, 0:22) - In reviewing his career path. Krby explained how he almost accidentally got into his current line of work. He earned a degree in Economics, then spent the next 20 to 25 years in financial services. Over time, he started to see that field becoming a commodity and the possibility for making a good living shrinking. He began to feel bored and less able to use his creativity. (Kirby, 1:35) - As a voracious reader, Kirby eventually stumbled on a book by Lonnie Scruggs, the legendary mobile home investor and author. (Kirby, 2:49) - Following the Lonnie Scruggs pattern, Kirby made a part-time job of buying cheap mobile homes and selling them on a rent-to-own (RTO) basis. His first sale, of a mobile home he paid $800 for, was to a park manager who has, since 1009, been Kirby’s employee for the longest tenure. (Kirby, 3:2) - Over time, Kirby bought and sold on RTO contracts a total of maybe 50 or 60 mobile homes. He’d spend the first week of every month knocking on doors and getting rent from his RTO contract holders. - When the SAFE Act regulation of Dodd Frank came out in 2008, Kirby realized that would pretty much kill his mode of business. zThe purpose of the SAFE Act was to regulate those who sell housing, and the rules and requirements were so complicated and involved that he figured he’d have to redirect the way he moved forward. (Kirby, 4:49) - That’s when Kirby began buying mobile home parks. He lost his shirt on that first deal, but learned plenty. For starters, he learned that owning communities isn’t “mailbox money” a matter of just waiting for the checks to arrive by letter carrier. It’s harder than that, and there’s much more to do to successfully run a park. (Kirby, 5:21) - In describing a park deal he worked with Max’s company, Kirby mentioned that a community that was shaky when he first bought it is now stabilized, with 100 percent occupancy and 90 percent collections and only responsible residents. (Kirby, 7:17) - When he bought it, the community was all park-owned homes (POH). One of the first things Kirby did was determine who he wanted living there and who he wanted out in order to clean up the community and improve the culture. He also turned all of the POHs into opportunities for the preferred residents to buy them. (Kirby, 7:37) - Kirby basically had only three park rules, and those who couldn’t follow them were evicted. The rules were, be a good neighbor…keep your yard clean…and pay your rent on time. (Kirby, 7:56) - Kirby enjoyed working with his good tenants, and either getting money upfront or working out payment plans so they could own their homes and he was only dealing with lot rent. Some of the homes were in such poor condition that he literally gave them to his tenants. His dream is that eventually the community (and others he owns) will become so stabilized that people will be proud to live there and fond of their childhood memories in a manufactured home community. (Kirby, 8:39) - Max observed that his start in the industry was much like Kirby’s, including being heavily influenced by Lonnie Scruggs books. (Max, 10:10) - Asked whether he’s ever tried syndication as a way of raising acquisition capital, Kirby said that it makes him nervous if he has to report to major investors. His preference is to go one deal at a time, with him and his family usually the sole investors on reasonably small deals. In the case of larger deals, he might bring together one or two friends who can invest, but he stays away from large pools of investors. (Kirby, 11:45) - Asked if he buys new or used homes for his parks, Kirby said that he’d love to be able to find affordable higher-quality used homes, but they’re almost impossible to find. Even if he could, they would each cost about $20,000 to $30,000 to buy and move in. (Kirby, 13:31) - Kirby mentioned some of the new home manufacturers he uses, and highlighted Hamilton Homes out of Hamilton, Alabama for how they came through when the supply chain was held up after Covid. He also had words of praise for Champion Homes, and Clayton for the high quality of their homes. Kirby said that the quality of new mobile homes ...
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