Episodios

  • Technology, Software, AI and Automation - What Do You Actually Need? with Curtis Thomson
    Mar 17 2026
    Technology is moving fast, but speed alone is not the goal. What matters is whether the tools we adopt are genuinely reducing the low-value, repetitive work that keeps property managers stuck in constant reaction mode. This conversation explores the difference between software that simply creates more task lists and software that actually removes friction, automates decision pathways, and frees up time for the work that really matters – communication, strategy, relationships, and service.I’m joined by Curtis Thompson, CEO of Our Property, who brings decades of experience building and scaling software businesses. Curtis brings a refreshingly grounded perspective to the role of AI and automation in property management. Rather than replacing people, the real opportunity lies in repositioning them. When repetitive admin, follow-up, and workflow coordination are handled more intelligently, property managers can step further into advisory conversations, stronger landlord relationships, and better commercial outcomes. It is a thoughtful reminder that the future of this industry will not be built on busyness, but on better systems, better decisions, and a clearer understanding of where human value is best placed.There is also an important leadership lens woven through this discussion. As our industry faces increasing pressure on profit, staffing, and service delivery, agencies cannot afford to keep layering technology on top of broken processes. The smarter approach is to step back, rethink the ideal operating model, and then choose solutions that support that vision. For principals, BDMs, and department leaders, this is a timely conversation about change, mindset, and what it will take to build a more scalable, sustainable property management business in the years ahead.“Are we solving real operational problems or just layering technology on top of inefficiency?” - Curtis ThomsonWe cover:The role of technology, software, AI, and automation in property management.Challenges of repetitive administrative tasks in property management.The importance of automating busy work to enhance property manager efficiency.The potential of AI to support decision-making and improve operational processes.The necessity of human involvement in property management despite automation.Strategies for agencies to evaluate and adopt new technology effectively.The emotional journey of change management within property management teams.Continuous innovation and the importance of user feedback in software development.The concept of "moonshots" in proptech and ambitious strategic changes.Personal development and leadership strategies for effective problem-solving and team empowerment.Kylie’s Resources:Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchoolDigital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschoolThat Property Mum Courses: https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/courses/The PM Accelerate Membership: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/accelerateBook a Strategy Call with Kylie: https://calendly.com/kylie-tpm/coaching-call Kolmeo: https://kolmeo.com/Find out about our Done for You Lead Generation - https://calendly.com/kylie-tpm/done-for-you-leads-discovery-call35 AI Prompts to help you Grow your Business on Social Media: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/35-prompts-to-grow-your-property-management-business-on-social-mediahttps://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/5-misktakes-replayDigital Marketing and AI Academyhttps://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalmarketingyesConnect with Curtis Thomson:https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtisthomson/https://www.ourproperty.com.au/Connect With Kylie:Follow Kylie Walker on Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/thatpropertymum_/Follow Kylie on Facebook - https://web.facebook.com/thatpropertymumConnect with Kylie on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylie-wal...Explore Kylie's Website - https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/Watch Kylie on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thatpropertymum
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  • How to Build Sustainable Careers Without Sacrificing Health, Family, or Yourself with Emily Wood
    Mar 10 2026
    Working in property management can sometimes feel like a nonstop balancing act. There are clients to support, properties to manage, emails piling up, and expectations coming from every direction. When the pressure keeps building, it’s easy to slip into survival mode and believe that stress is simply part of the job. In this episode, I explore why constantly talking about burnout isn’t moving the industry forward, and why it’s time we start focusing on building careers that are actually sustainable.I’m joined by senior property manager Emily Wood, who opens up about the moment stress forced her to step away from the industry completely. After experiencing serious health impacts, Emily took a year out before eventually returning to property management with a completely different perspective on how she works. Today she manages a large portfolio while also creating resources and support for other property managers through her platform, PM with Em.During our conversation we talk about recognising when overwhelm is starting to take hold, the importance of checking in with your own capacity, and the simple framework Emily uses to decide what truly deserves her attention each day. We also dive into boundaries, communication, and why slowing down can actually help you perform better in a demanding role. If you’ve been feeling stretched, reactive, or stuck in the chaos of day-to-day property management, this episode offers practical insights to help you approach your work with greater intention.“Nothing that I'm doing right now is life or death. Like, just take a deep breath. Slow yourself down and just take the next step.” - Emily WoodWe cover:Burnout in the property management industryPersonal experiences and stories related to burnoutStrategies for recognizing and managing burnoutImportance of mindfulness and self-careSetting boundaries and effective communicationLeveraging support systems, such as virtual assistantsThe impact of unrealistic expectations from clientsTools and resources for property managers to avoid burnoutCreating a supportive community for property managersIntentional career growth and planning in property managementKylie’s Resources:Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchool Digital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschool That Property Mum Courses: https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/courses/ The PM Accelerate Membership: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/accelerate Book a Strategy Call with Kylie: https://calendly.com/kylie-tpm/coaching-call Kolmeo: https://kolmeo.com/ Find out about our Done for You Lead Generation - https://calendly.com/kylie-tpm/done-for-you-leads-discovery-call35 AI Prompts to help you Grow your Business on Social Media: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/35-prompts-to-grow-your-property-management-business-on-social-mediahttps://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/5-misktakes-replayDigital Marketing and AI Academyhttps://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalmarketingyesConnect with Emily Wood:https://www.instagram.com/pmwithem_/beacons.ai/pmwithemDownload the the PM survival guide 2.0 https://shop.beacons.ai/pmwithem/154a3675-cbf9-48aa-9e15-694bdc663d24Connect With Kylie:Follow Kylie Walker on Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/thatpropertymum_/Follow Kylie on Facebook - https://web.facebook.com/thatpropertymumConnect with Kylie on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylie-wal...Explore Kylie's Website - https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/Watch Kylie on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thatpropertymum
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  • What Co-Hosting Next Taught Me About Energy, Identity & The Future of Our Industry
    Mar 3 2026
    After spending three weeks co-hosting the NEXT conference across Perth, Brisbane, and Melbourne, I walked away with a perspective shift that I didn’t expect. Working alongside four other coaches with completely different strengths challenged me to reflect on collaboration, leadership, and what it really takes to create something meaningful in our industry. This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at the lessons that surfaced for me – both professionally and personally – while bringing this event to life.I share what it truly costs to show up at that level, especially when public speaking doesn’t come naturally. From the nervous energy of being on stage to the emotional and mental demands of leading conversations that matter, this experience reinforced how important it is to protect our energy and design businesses that don’t rely on us operating at maximum intensity all the time. Systems, delegation, support, and technology are no longer nice-to-haves – they’re the foundations of sustainable leadership.We also explore the bigger shift happening inside the property management industry right now. The outdated identity of property management being the “support act” to sales is disappearing, replaced by a new generation of leaders building profitable, systemised, and forward-thinking businesses. More than anything, this experience reminded me that none of us have to build in isolation anymore. When ambitious people come together to share ideas, challenge thinking, and support each other’s growth, the entire industry moves forward.“This industry is maturing and we are no longer in survival mode. We're in expansion mode. And collaboration reminded me of something really powerful. When you surround yourself with other ambitious, generous, intelligent people. You rise faster. Isolation keeps you small. Believe me, I spent almost a decade in isolation. But collaboration expands you.” - Kylie WalkerWe cover:Balancing career and family in the property management industryEmpowering women in property managementInsights from the NEXT conference experienceImportance of collaboration and embracing individual strengthsManaging energy and avoiding burnout in high-intensity environmentsThe evolving future of property management with technology and human relationshipsShifting perceptions of property management as a valuable professionThe rise of property management professionals as entrepreneurs and strategic thinkersAvailability of support and resources for property management professionalsEmphasizing the importance of community and collaboration for growth and successKylie’s Resources:Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchool Digital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschool That Property Mum Courses: https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/courses/ The PM Accelerate Membership: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/accelerate Book a Strategy Call with Kylie: https://calendly.com/kylie-tpm/coaching-call Kolmeo: https://kolmeo.com/ Find out about our Done for You Lead Generation - https://calendly.com/kylie-tpm/done-for-you-leads-discovery-call35 AI Prompts to help you Grow your Business on Social Media: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/35-prompts-to-grow-your-property-management-business-on-social-mediahttps://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/5-misktakes-replayDigital Marketing and AI Academyhttps://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalmarketingyesIf you are ready to see what’s NEXT in Property Management, join five amazing industry coaches, hosting one epic event, in three locations - NEXT.Buy your Tickets here: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/nextConnect With Kylie:Follow Kylie Walker on Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/thatpropertymum_/Follow Kylie on Facebook - https://web.facebook.com/thatpropertymumConnect with Kylie on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylie-wal...Explore Kylie's Website - https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/Watch Kylie on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thatpropertymum
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  • What It Really Takes to Rebuild a Broken Business With Jaharn Torok
    Feb 24 2026

    On the outside, everything can look successful. The brand is strong. The team is in place. The numbers might even be growing. But behind closed doors? It can feel like chaos, doubt and quiet damage control. In this episode, I sit down with Jaharn Torok, Principal of Ray White Lithgow, to talk about the season where things weren’t running smoothly – when the right people weren’t in the right seats, when avoidance felt easier than confrontation, and when leadership required a level of courage she hadn’t needed before.

    We talk about what it really takes to rebuild a struggling rent roll– from implementing stronger systems and processes to having the tough conversations most leaders avoid. Jaharn shares how stepping up, communicating better, and putting the right “bums on seats” transformed her business from reactive and stressful to structured and sustainable. There’s powerful insight here for any sales agent looking to grow a property management arm, especially around due diligence, team structure and long-term strategy.

    This episode is a reminder that resilience isn’t about pretending everything is fine – it’s about making the hard decisions that move your business forward. If you’ve been feeling overwhelmed, questioning your leadership, or sensing that something in your business needs to shift, this conversation will leave you feeling empowered to take action, trust yourself again, and lead with clarity and confidence.

    “You go into damage control and know what you need to do, but it's having the courage to actually do it."

    - Jaharn Torok

    We cover:

    1. Challenges in managing and rebuilding a property management business
    2. Personal journey and experiences in the real estate industry
    3. Importance of having the right team and communication
    4. Implementation of systems and processes for business efficiency
    5. Emotional and operational struggles faced by business owners
    6. The significance of external support and mentorship
    7. Growth mindset and resilience in overcoming difficulties
    8. Strategies for integrating property management with sales
    9. Recruitment challenges and the importance of finding the right fit
    10. Benefits of being part of a franchise or brand in real estate

    Kylie’s Resources:

    Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchool

    Digital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschool

    That Property Mum Courses: https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/courses/

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  • If I Were Starting a Property Management Business in 2026, Here’s Exactly What I’d Do
    Feb 19 2026

    If I were launching a property management business in 2026, I would approach it from a completely different lens – shaped by experience, hard lessons, industry shifts, and the realities of burnout that so many leaders quietly carry. The conversation unpacks what I would prioritise first, why identity matters more than income in the early stages, and how getting clear on who you want to be as a leader changes every decision that follows.

    We explore the importance of building around real capacity rather than chasing growth at any cost, setting clear service standards from day one, and embedding boundaries into your systems instead of relying on willpower. There’s also a strong focus on leadership development, personal visibility in a crowded market, and using technology and AI intentionally to strengthen your service – not strip away the human connection that makes great businesses thrive.

    This is for the property manager or business owner who knows the old way of doing things isn’t sustainable. It’s a perspective shift toward building something profitable, adaptable, and energising – a business that supports your wellbeing, your relationships, and your long-term vision. Because success in the next era of property management won’t belong to the busiest operators, but to the most intentional ones.

    “The future of property management belongs to leaders who are regulated, intentional, visible, and very human."


    - Kylie Walker

    We cover:

    1. Advice for women in the property management industry
    2. Starting a property management business in 2026
    3. Importance of building a business based on identity rather than income
    4. Designing a business around capacity and sustainability
    5. Intentional use of technology and automation in business operations
    6. Building a personal brand alongside the business
    7. The significance of niching down and setting clear boundaries
    8. Investing in leadership skills and emotional intelligence
    9. Creating a business adaptable to change and uncertainty
    10. Redefining success in terms of sustainability, health, and impact rather than just profit

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    Kylie’s Resources:

    Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchool

    Digital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschool

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  • The Freedom Framework: How to Stop Surviving & Create the Business of Your Dreams
    Feb 18 2026

    Burnout doesn’t happen overnight, and in this episode I’m sharing what it really looked like for me when the pressure, pace, and constant demands of property management became too much. I talk openly about reaching a point where my business was running my life, not the other way around, and why that moment forced me to rethink how I was operating, leading, and showing up both professionally and personally.

    I take you behind the scenes of how I rebuilt my business using what I now call my Freedom Framework. We dive into the role of simple, repeatable systems, the power of well-designed workflows, and how leveraging offshore support allowed me to create space, increase efficiency, and improve profitability without adding more hours to my week. This is about designing a business that functions smoothly even when you’re not in every detail.

    This episode is for property managers who know there has to be a better way but aren’t sure where to start. It’s a mix of mindset, strategy, and practical insight designed to help you reduce overwhelm, protect your energy, and create a business that supports your wellbeing, your goals, and your life outside of work.

    ”I don’t have a productivity issue. I work really bloody hard. I have a capacity issue."

    - Kylie Walker

    We cover:

    1. Overcoming burnout and overwhelm in the property management industry
    2. Development and implementation of the "Freedom Framework"
    3. Importance of time tracking and delegation in business management
    4. Creation of simple, repeatable workflows and systems for property management tasks
    5. Enhancing team efficiency and reducing staff turnover through structured processes
    6. Shifting focus from busy work to profitability in business operations
    7. Strategies for increasing fees and improving client retention
    8. Transitioning from survival mode to sustainable business growth
    9. Building a business that supports personal life and well-being
    10. Offering support services to property management business owners through trained offshore talent

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    Kylie’s Resources:

    Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchool

    Digital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschool

    That Property Mum Courses: https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/courses/

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  • Personal Brand vs Corporate Brand: What Actually Grows Your Business Online
    Feb 13 2026

    Showing up online can feel exhausting when you’re doing all the “right” things and still not seeing traction. In this episode, I’m unpacking one of the biggest questions I hear from property managers and business owners right now: should you be building a corporate brand or a personal brand? With social platforms more crowded than ever, visibility isn’t about being louder or more polished – it’s about being more human, more intentional, and more connected.

    I break down why personal brands create stronger trust, deeper relationships, and warmer conversations than business pages alone. We talk about how showing the person behind the brand actually strengthens your business, not undermines it, and why clarity, consistency, and lived experience are your biggest differentiators online. This isn’t about becoming an influencer or oversharing your life – it’s about being known for what you stand for and how you think.

    This episode is an equal parts mindset shift and practical guidance for anyone who wants to grow their business without burning out or hiding behind a logo. Whether you’re a property manager, leader, or agency owner, this conversation will help you rethink how you show up, what you want to be known for, and how to build trust in a digital world that’s craving real leadership.

    ”People don’t connect with businesses. They connect with people."


    - Kylie Walker

    We cover:

    1. Balancing career and family in the property management industry
    2. Strategies for growing a property management business
    3. Overcoming fear and boosting confidence in professional settings
    4. The importance of mindset in achieving success
    5. Differences between personal branding and corporate branding
    6. Why personal brands tend to outperform corporate brands online
    7. The role of trust in service-based and relationship-driven industries
    8. Key elements of a successful personal brand (clarity, consistency, perspective, authenticity, and value)
    9. The impact of social media algorithms on personal versus corporate branding
    10. The significance of showing up authentically in a crowded online space

    Kylie’s Resources:

    Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchool

    Digital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschool

    That Property Mum Courses: https://www.thatpropertymum.com.au/courses/

    The PM Accelerate Membership: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/accelerate

    Book a Strategy Call with Kylie:

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  • The Future of Rent Roll Sales and Acquisitions With Tarsi Taylor
    Feb 10 2026

    Running a property management business can feel like a constant juggle. Serving clients, managing a team, and trying to hold everything together behind the scenes. And when burnout creeps in or financial pressure builds, it’s no surprise that many business owners start to wonder… is it time to sell?

    In this episode, we’re diving into the future of rent roll sales and acquisitions. What’s shifting, what to watch out for, and how to make smart, strategic decisions whether you’re buying, selling, or just starting to think about it. I also share a bit about my own experience selling off parts of my rent roll in three different transactions, including the highs, the challenges, and a few lessons learned the hard way.

    I’m joined by the incredible Tarsi Taylor, rent roll strategist, business valuer, and founder of The Tarsi Way and Buy a Rent Roll. With over 26 years in the industry, she brings real talk and deep insight into what makes a rent roll valuable, what impacts your multiplier, and why the foundations of your business matter long before you decide to sell. Whether you're planning an exit or building for the long haul, this episode is packed with practical advice to help you protect your profit, reduce your risk, and grow with clarity.

    “Every rent roll is completely different. And the, the main things that are going to affect it is all the statistics, first and foremost of your actual portfolio.”

    - Tarsi Taylor

    We cover:

    1. Current state of rent roll sales and acquisitions in the real estate industry.
    2. Factors driving the seller's market, including business owner burnout and financial pressures.
    3. Complexity and timeline of the rent roll selling process, emphasizing the importance of preparation.
    4. The significance of due diligence and professional audits in enhancing portfolio value.
    5. Key factors influencing rent roll valuation, including portfolio cleanliness, location, and financial stability.
    6. Common pitfalls in rent roll preparation and the necessity of engaging professionals for audits.
    7. Strategies for growing a rent roll, including organic growth, targeted growth, acquisitions, and fee optimization.
    8. Importance of industry experience and strategic planning before purchasing a rent roll.
    9. Predictions for the future of the rent roll market, including potential trends and market dynamics.
    10. The value of continuous learning and professional development in the property management field.

    Kylie’s Resources:

    Property Management Growth School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/TPM-BDMSchool

    Digital Marketing School: https://courses.thatpropertymum.com.au/digitalschool

    That Property Mum Courses:...

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    31 m