Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Carolyn Beaudoin, co-founder of Boxcar Agency. You'll learn about their Hybrid One Reader approach, tips for structuring your homepage and dedicated solution pages, how to use customer call recordings as copywriting material, and more.

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• Boxcar Agency
• Copyhackers
• Proven Ideas for A/B Testing with Sahil Patel
• JTBD for User Onboarding with Ramli John
• Uncovering Customer Insights Using JTBD with Aggelos Mouzakitis
• The Copywriting Formula: Features — Advantages — Benefits (FAB)
• Demand Side Sales – a book by Bob Moesta
• Get Boxcar Agency’s free resources for BDTP listeners
• Follow Carolyn on LinkedIn

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How do you make your design system an internal rooted practice? Our guest today is Dan Mall, entrepreneur and author of Design That Scales. You’ll learn how small practices can evolve into a design system, why adoption should tie in to your company’s mission statement, how to declare your strategic plan when establishing a design system, and more.

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• Design That Scales — Dan’s new book
• Design System University
• Episode 258: Data-driven Design Systems with Berk Çebi
• Omlet.dev
• Zeroheight, Supernova, Knapsack — modern tools for design systems
• Check out Dan’s website
• Sign up for Dan’s newsletter
• Follow Design System University on Twitter and LinkedIn
• Follow Dan on Twitter and Instagram
• Get Dan’s book

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Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Kai Davis, an SEO consultant. You'll learn how often you should update your pages, the two levers for improving your SEO, how to use heat mapping, and more.

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• Survey-based Research Projects with Becky Lawlor
• Ahrefs, Semrush – popular SEO tools
• Screaming Frog
• Hotjar – a heat mapping tool
• Follow Kai on Twitter
• Get Kai's exclusive resources for BDTP listeners

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